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« on: July 21, 2005, 04:02:24 PM »
Not sure if everyone knows this, but I just noticed yesterday when I was driving around searching for diesel.  There is a Sinclair at I-25 and Belleview (East side of I-25) at the intersection of Belleview and S Syracuse St (North-West corner).  They sell Street Legal Sunoco 100 oct gasoline. I was like woot now I don't have to drive as far to fill up the S4 ;)

Anyone know of a website that lists places to buy 100 oct/race fuels in the denver metro area?
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2005, 04:24:13 PM »
There was a list on the Regional Vortex...I'll see if I can dig it up...
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2005, 04:24:13 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2005, 04:24:59 PM »
If you find it Ian, we can add it to the FAQ section of this site or in a sticky thread or something so people can find it.

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2005, 04:30:21 PM »
"The corruption of man is followed by corruption of language." -Emerson

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2005, 04:32:57 PM »
Woot! Hey thanks for finding that.  You should add it to the FAQ, its good stuff to have readily available :D
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2005, 04:35:09 PM »
I also had a link for an octane converter at some point (X # gallons of A octane + Y # of gallons of B octane = Z octane)...I can see if I can dig that up too, if there's interest.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2005, 04:41:28 PM »
Added to the FAQ on the left under Fuel and Oil

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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2005, 07:13:26 PM »
I'm going to get some after work :D How late are they open??
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2005, 08:07:13 PM »
My question is, how much does 100 octane fuel cost, at the pump?

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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2005, 08:11:47 PM »
$1 per octane rating per gallon ;)

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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2005, 08:35:21 PM »
$9/gal.?  :lol:  :twisted:

Heehee...that's $117 to fill my car from empty :lol:
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2005, 09:01:04 PM »
Going to Germany in the summers and winters has taken the edge off of the $9.00/gallon quote for me. But I still am not paying that much to fill up the car.

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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2005, 09:02:00 PM »
Oh i was just joking, i have no idea how much it is, I'm sure it is a fair amount more, but not that much.

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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2005, 09:02:51 PM »
You clever trickster, you.  :o

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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2005, 11:42:58 PM »
The guys at 32nd and Wadsworth are only $5 a gallon for 100octane.  It is some brand I have never heard of before, but I have a hard time believing that there is really much of a difference between different 100octane gases.  100octane = 100octane.

What do those guys at Bellview and I-25 charge?
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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2005, 11:50:13 AM »
I called the Sinclair and they said its going for $5.49 a gallon.  Which isnt to bad for a little fun ;)
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2005, 01:13:22 PM »
I wonder how that'd treat my 91 APR program...anyone with the 91 APR program use 100 before?  Any appreciable difference in performance?
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2005, 01:23:35 PM »
I believe Shummer has the 100 and 91 programs for his Passat. I would think the software is set to be optimal at 91 octane, so in theory using a much higher octane like 100 may not be so good. Regardless you would probably see some performance gains, but at what cost (other than fuel)?

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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2005, 01:41:21 PM »
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Regardless you would probably see some performance gains, but at what cost (other than fuel)?


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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2005, 01:51:06 PM »
Are these fuels leaded or unleaded?
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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2005, 02:13:07 PM »
They'll definitely tell you if they are leaded.  If you look at the Comcast website, they list the fuels that are leaded (at the very bottom, there are 114 and 118 octanes that are leaded).

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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2005, 03:47:51 PM »
I believe that if you're running too high an octane for your timing/boost settings you will not see performance gains and potentially could see degredation. Higher octanes will burn slower. If you don't give it a chance to fully ignite you won't be gettting much *ahem* bang for your buck.

I think our ECUs can adjust to some degree for higher octane fuels since I can notice a difference between 91 and 93 or by adding Toluene but I question the value of putting in a full tank of 100 octane, to the tune of eighty bucks, as it might not be as significant as one would hope.

Now if you have a 100 octane program and eighty bucks to LITTERALLY burn.... Take me for a ride! :D
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2005, 01:49:58 AM »
Quote from: "ianacole"
I wonder how that'd treat my 91 APR program...anyone with the 91 APR program use 100 before?  Any appreciable difference in performance?



Done it.... did it at PPIR after a good number of 91 octane laps.  The biggest thing I noticed is how much smooth the power feels.  There was a small bit of extra umph, but nothing worth paying for.  I have the 100octane mode on my stage 3+ kit and with the advanced timing it is definately worth it.  I wouldn't pay for it unless you have the 100oct mode.

One thing I have heard is running 100 on 91 (or 93) does help clean out your internals, but I don't know if it is true, just been told this.

Andrew, I think you are thinking of running 100 octane Mode with 91/93 gas.  With this, it is bad.  You are running faster timing than the gas can ignite and you will get misfires, and other badness... but running slower timing with higher octane gas will give your car small gains, but nothing worth the $$.


With gas prices being almost $2.50 a gallon, and 100 octane being $5.00 a gallon, I find myself losing reasons to not use the 100octane.  Come on, we're talking about smoother power and about 50 more donkeys....
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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2005, 03:51:09 AM »
This might just be all the same ones from the link Ian posted but I'll post it anyways.

http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/local/highoctane.html

You could also buy toluene from any Sherwin Williams.
Toluene = 114 Octane. I have a gallon sitting at home just waiting for a reason to use it!!!
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I like getting race gas at Duggan's on Santa Fe. From what I was told recently, all the race gas is the same price! Don't know if that's true or not. Whenever I go there, 100 is all they have. Haven't gone too often though in all fairness. I'd call to check before heading out there to see what all is in stock.

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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2005, 03:45:57 AM »
Any street legal 100 oct gas is going to be unleaded.  It is illegal to sell leaded gasoline for on-road use.  The Sunoco 100 oct is lead free.
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« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2005, 02:27:45 PM »
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Andrew, I think you are thinking of running 100 octane Mode with 91/93 gas.  With this, it is bad.  You are running faster timing than the gas can ignite and you will get misfires, and other badness... but running slower timing with higher octane gas will give your car small gains, but nothing worth the $$.


No, I'm sure I got my thoughts right, I'm just not sure about my information ;) I sure as hell wouldn't try running a 100 octane program with 91/93 fuel!!

What I'm saying is that I don't know if our computers can compensate for something like 100 octane fuel and adjust the timing accordingly to see any significant or worth-while gains. Hence, the need to have a 100 octane program.
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« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2005, 11:38:48 PM »
Yes... I must have misread what you said before.

I tried 100octane and the power felt smoother, but as far as power gains, maybe 5-10, but definately NOT above 10.  Now with the fast timing on the 100octane chip... mmm...power
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