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« on: July 20, 2005, 04:12:08 PM »
Saw this and have copied the contents since these posts tend to get nuked. However, if this is legit and affordable it might be a good solution for those with broken FOBs and so forth (I know nothing of these folks except for this post):

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If you have a car with a chip in the key, and were told noone can replace lost ones, you were told wrong.

We have the technology to produce working keys for your Nissan, Ford, GM, Acura, Lexus, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Jeep, Chrysler, Volkswagen, Audi and other makes.

Need Remotes ? If you need additional remotes for your car, we can supply and program Original Equipment, NEW ( no used stuff ) Remotes.

Cracked Lexus or Toyota Key Top? We have replacement housings for the electronics.

Tip to Everyone:

NEVER toss away the top part of a worn or broken chip type key. The coding on the circuitry can save you a LOT of money, if you lose all your other keys. Especially on Toyota and Lexus.

Call City Lock, your Automotive Security Technology specialist.

Showroom / Workshop / Studio 303-444-4407 is at 2898 30th St in Boulder. Monday - Friday 8-6 or by appointmnet, have us come to you!

City Lock also repairs, replaces ignition door and trunk locks on most all makes and models.

When we replace a lock, it is matched to the keys for the whole car.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2005, 05:28:15 PM »
Good info to have.
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2005, 05:28:15 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2005, 05:30:20 PM »
I've heard in the news of car thieves who write down the VIN numbers off of people's windshields and managed to get a fob and cut key made/programmed so they could steal it incongnito.
Fortunately reports of these crimes were limited to big cities on the west coast and to big ticket vehicles.

I may even want to black out my VIN number next time I replace my windshield.

I'm weary of these places that does this.  I would'nt want to provide any personal and vehicle information when getting my fob reprogrammed by them, and also if they could program a fob to any Joe creating a potential for more car thefts.

I thought you could get your fob programmed at the dealership anyways (though it's abit expensive).
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2005, 05:49:43 PM »
After what happened to Greg, I blacked out my VINs. If a cop asks, I'll uncover for him, go home and black it out again.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2005, 05:54:35 PM »
Well your VIN is all over the place on your car, so if someone REALLY wants your car they can find it on the frame, body panels and so on (most makes/models).

Again, I have no idea, but based on their post it has nothing to do with your VIN. Just need to make sure you have your old stuff to make the new stuff.

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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2005, 06:07:18 PM »
As I understand it you could get a key cut from your VIN, but the RF chip is not married to the car until a procedure is performed using a scantool or an already-programmed key.   That way a thief can get in but will not get the car to start.  And that's assuming the dealership that made the key was either duped or corrupt.

The cars I have programmed keys for needed to 'see' a programmed key and then, if presented within a few seconds, it'd accept a new key.  You have to be very close to the lock, so a thief cannot marry a key to your car from a good ways off.

I suppose a thief could radiate and read your programmed key while it's in your pocket (if they can get close to you) then custom make an RF chip that is a clone of your married one, get a key cut at a crooked dealer, and pick up your car whenever he got the chance.  However that sounds like a lot of work.

If you are using a remote start that puts a key in a hidden box inside the car, that's a big security hole.

If this stuff worries you, hide a kill switch.  That'd slow 'em down.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2005, 06:21:29 PM »
Quote from: "gietl"
Well your VIN is all over the place on your car, so if someone REALLY wants your car they can find it on the frame, body panels and so on (most makes/models).


No sense in making it easy for them. But your right, it's probably a wasted effort.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2005, 06:22:18 PM »
This only holds true for cars will immobilizers, older VWs, I believe pre 2001.5 do not have immobilizers and therefore a key could be had from the dealer and you would be good to go.

Most "new" keys for these older late model (does that make sense) cars just need to be held int he door lock for a few seconds to be "programmed."

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2005, 07:13:31 PM »
I found a good writeup:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1216091

Looks like the key in the door is how you program a remote, but you need two keys.  The immobilizer is another matter, requiring vag.com and the key code or the scantool.

At least with the later models, getting a key cut and an unassigned immobilizer transponder is not going to get you on the road with someone else's car.  You need to clone the immobilizer RF chip and that might even be encrypted.

Since the 2002 Audi S4 is often stolen (according to the recent study) I wonder if they just flatbed them or bypass the immobilizer?

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