Author Topic: Radar detectior questions..  (Read 6146 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Richard-EB

  • Lightly Modded
  • **
  • Posts: 182
  • EuroBerge Editor
    • EuroBerge Magazine
Radar detectior questions..
« on: June 05, 2007, 09:54:29 PM »
As I know the technical aspects of my research have been answered via other forums, I am curious to which radar detectors you all use and have been pleased with the results of.  I am looking at the Valentine One, but I want to make sure that it has been successful against the CSP and other such Colorado based units.  Has anyone ran into the laser speed detectors, or is Colorado still using radar?  Thanks in advance.

Richard

03Indigo

  • Global Moderator
  • Supercar
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,686
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2007, 10:07:43 PM »
I don't use one, I think they give a false sense of security and cause some people to drive faster.  If the cops are using the latest and greatest, they can tag you and all you will see is a flash on your detector, and overall it is too late.

alot of people use the V1, but outside of that, I am not sure.  Since I think they are a waste of money, I don't pay much attention to them.  I know if I had one, I would drive faster thinking I was safe, but in reality, you are not.

Rocky Mountain Club B5

Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2007, 10:07:43 PM »

Richard-EB

  • Lightly Modded
  • **
  • Posts: 182
  • EuroBerge Editor
    • EuroBerge Magazine
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2007, 10:12:03 PM »
For the most part, I am not a fast driver, but when I go on long road trips in the middle of nowhere, it is nice to be able to pick up speed a little.  I remember driving from Phoenix to Denver overnight, going about 7 or 8 over, and just wishing I had a detector to see if that car that just passed me going the opposite direction was a cop.  In no way am I condoning street racing or aggressive driving, so please dont get me wrong there.

03Indigo

  • Global Moderator
  • Supercar
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,686
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2007, 10:39:15 PM »
LOL, no worries, never thought you wanted to street race at all, I just feel radar detectors give false sense of security, and might cause some people to drive faster...and thus a bigger ticket ;)

Really, I guess I am talking about me, if I had a detector, I would probably drive faster thinking there are no cops around if the detector is not going off. :)

ianacole

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 2,622
    • http://www.rmsolo.org
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2007, 10:49:38 PM »
I'm lucky to get the 40 up to 55 with a tail wind, but I had a Passport 8500 X50 when my GTI was streetable, and it did make me feel more comfortable.
"The corruption of man is followed by corruption of language." -Emerson

Think you're fast? http://www.rmsolo.org

For the road racer in all of us: http://www.nasarockymountain.com

92UrS4

  • Administrator
  • Supercar
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,934
    • Rocky Mountain Club B5
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2007, 10:57:16 PM »
Here in Colorado if you stay within 10 over for the most part you are ok. As for whats used, the popo, including the CSP have the latest greatest including instant, meaning by the time your radar detector goes off it's too late. We have laser and all sorts of radar. They like to use a mix to throw people off.

For the most part, the V1 is going to be the best bang for the buck in protection. That coupled with street smarts will keep you in the clear.

I am with Jon in detectors being a former owner of one. I am not going to say I am super smart and unbeatable, but I tend to get places (including road trips) fast enough while just using street smarts and constant evaluation of my situation.

Richard-EB

  • Lightly Modded
  • **
  • Posts: 182
  • EuroBerge Editor
    • EuroBerge Magazine
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2007, 11:10:06 PM »
I've been reading a lot about the new technologies out there, to include the laser detectors.  Aside from spending over a grand on a laser blocker for the front and rear of a vehicle, they are impossible to detect.  But, they dont work when the police car is moving, unlike the new generation of radar detectors.  I mean, when you are going through New Mexico at 2am, and you dont see any other cars for a couple hours, you tend to want to speed up.  I am just hoping to make a good investment when it comes to the road trips and such.  I appreciate the feedback.  I am not deadset on this, as i havent had a speeding ticket in 5 years, which isnt bad for a 22 year old.  Granted, most of the cops in Yuma, AZ are former Marines and only care if you are drunk. 

Eric18T

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,668
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2007, 11:10:16 PM »
I currently run a passport 8500 in both cars, i have a Bel STi and a bell rx65 coming.  Anyone one of these will fit the bill for the CSP. Also skip the laser jammers as they were outlawed last january and carry a hefty fine if you are caught with one.

The top detectors right now are:

Bel STI & RX65
V1
Passport 8500

jayryan

  • Supercar
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,211
    • JayFriesen.com
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2007, 02:12:28 AM »
I've got a V1. It came with car and it does make me feel a bit more secure. I will be honest, the thing is virtually useless in the city. That's probably a place you don't to speed anyway. Mine falses out most of the time in the city. You end up learning it though and knowing when a real cop is really tracking you. But as said, you need street smarts and have to know when to speed. I'm generally a laid back driver so most of the time I don't pay any heed to it...unless it's a club drive or something.

Now, on the open road that's different. I used it all the way back from Cali and didn't get tagged until the Sheriff in Garfield County, Utah was coming back from lunch and turned his on :) At which point, I was hosed, but I was slowing down coming into a residential area anyway. It DID keep me from getting tagged through Cali and AZ a few times though.

I'm pleased with mine. It'll pick up normal radar from over hills and around corners. On the straights and with Instant-On, it'll tell me one of two things: a) I'm busted or b) some guy near me is busted :) I like B since I know I then need to slow down.

The V1 has always-on POP sensing. Lasers though, just be smart. Lasers have to be used very precisely and deliberately so they end up being the infamous Denver/Aurora Motorcycle-two-cop-hiding-behind-a-corner ambush. The detector will tell you you've been caught.

Also remember, if you get pulled over for speeding without one, you'll probably receive some more leniency. If you have one and they see it, you most likely will get a ticket since they know you speed ;D 
'03 A4 1.8TQM
'68 MG C
'06 4Runner

Richard-EB

  • Lightly Modded
  • **
  • Posts: 182
  • EuroBerge Editor
    • EuroBerge Magazine
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2007, 09:02:01 AM »
I have heard about the leniency, so if i do end up getting one, i want to get it hardwired in.  That was one of the appeals of th V1 was the remote screen i could install and hide the main unit.  I appreciate the information though.  I remember a friend of mine had a V1 when we did a ride up to Pikes Peak, and the pass right before Idaho Springs, we almost got tagged going 90 or so (truck club).  Granted, the CSP lady came up and still pulled us all over, but through some sweet talking and the club's found just happening to have a box of donuts, we got off with some harsh words and bruised egos.

SweetVW

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,677
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2007, 09:25:18 AM »
I also own a V1 and so far I do not regret not getting it.  I agree that downtown it is useless but on highways or more remote areas it has become invaluable.  My "one time" story was when the family and I were going to Vail for the day and on heading up on I-70 the V1 picked up a signal up ahead and it was getting stronger.  We noticed a CSP heading east bound and sure enough the V1 tracked him from a forward read to side then behind.  Strange enough a few hundred yards back he turned around in the median and raced up behind us and with lights on, passed us.  All the time the V1 was actively tracking him and telling me exactly where he was.

Of course no detector will overcome the instant on and ultimately the driver must make the decision on how he or she drives and relies on the detector.

Lastly, the V1 is software upgradable for free for life.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2007, 09:27:55 AM by SweetVW »
If it ain't broke, take it apart and fix it!

34k

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,251
    • http://www.tw34k.com
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2007, 01:39:07 PM »
I have a Passport 8500 x50 hardwired, but I almost never use it. Not because it doesn't work well, just for basically all the reasons mentioned above.

Plus, it's one more thing you need to hide when parking so people don't go through a window to get it...

Sometimes on longer road trips I'll plug it in, but that's about it.
Andrew

Truth has no place in a culture of advertising.
2003 GTI
1992 GTI

Cole

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,035
    • http://rockcrawler.com
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2007, 09:38:10 PM »


I have been doing a LOT of research on this lately.

My commute is nearly 38 miles one way. E470/I70/I270/I25. 

Almost every day there is a cop running traffic along this route. Denver/CSP/Aurora/Commerce City/Northglenn/Westminster.

The average traffic flow can be as high as 20+ over the speed limit.

So just by hanging with traffic many times you are well over the posted limit. These guys are there fairly often writing tickets. Some use laser, some radar.

I have been using an old Bel 840i I found in a box in my basement. (probably about 5-7 years old) Just thought I would try it out and see if using a detector was even worth the trouble.

There is one constant false at 104th and I25 north bound. Other than that it really does not false on this route. It has let me know of many (not all) speed enforcement activities well before I get there.  It even saved me in my neighbor hood from a laser shot. I was 10 over and the detector went nuts, I pounded the brakes and then noticed the cop hiding behind the fence.  Lucky me I drive a black car that was absolutely filthy at the time from our snow storms. So I was able to slow down before he got a lock. (or decided to let me go becasue I slowed)

In most cases I think Radar Detectors slow drivers down.  It makes you more aware of your surroundings. I have found it kind of fun to watch it pick up a cop with his radar on coming toward me in traffic that I would not have seen behind other cars. (of course this cop would not be a threat, just interesting information).

I am thinking of picking up a V1. I think it is interesting information to have on hand when driving. Even if the intent is not to speed.

My understanding is that most of the falses are X band. Which can be turned off on the V1. This will make your drive much more pleasent.

$0.04 (inflation :))



Cole Ford
Financial Advisor

Eric18T

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,668
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2007, 11:10:35 PM »


I am thinking of picking up a V1. I think it is interesting information to have on hand when driving. Even if the intent is not to speed.

My understanding is that most of the falses are X band. Which can be turned off on the V1. This will make your drive much more pleasent.

$0.04 (inflation :))




yes. you can turn off the x-band easy.

ianacole

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 2,622
    • http://www.rmsolo.org
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2007, 11:53:54 PM »
$0.04 (inflation :))

At ~3% annual growth, when did you start compounding?  ;D
"The corruption of man is followed by corruption of language." -Emerson

Think you're fast? http://www.rmsolo.org

For the road racer in all of us: http://www.nasarockymountain.com

Docwyte

  • Lightly Modded
  • **
  • Posts: 396
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2007, 12:52:24 AM »
The V1 all the way.  Mine is 10 years old and it still rocks.  I called Valentine to see if it was worth upgrading it and the tech said, "no, not really.  not unless you want the POP feature"

Ran it on One Lap and it saved our butts many times...
ttp://www.projectonelap.com

Stock parts for sale, contact me for info!

Cole

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,035
    • http://rockcrawler.com
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2007, 02:37:57 AM »
The V1 all the way.  Mine is 10 years old and it still rocks.  I called Valentine to see if it was worth upgrading it and the tech said, "no, not really.  not unless you want the POP feature"

Ran it on One Lap and it saved our butts many times...

Well if you do a straight 3%on $0.02 that would have been 24 years ago.  ;D Which is at least as far back as the saying goes.   :P I have seen even more recent estimates that put inflation much higher than just 3.0% ;D

Cole Ford
Financial Advisor

Richard-EB

  • Lightly Modded
  • **
  • Posts: 182
  • EuroBerge Editor
    • EuroBerge Magazine
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2007, 09:00:26 AM »
Cole...ill just buy you a drink and promise not to drool on your car....

Thanks for the information though.  I think I am pretty set on getting a V1 when I return. 

92UrS4

  • Administrator
  • Supercar
  • *****
  • Posts: 5,934
    • Rocky Mountain Club B5
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2007, 11:45:03 AM »
Pick me up one too will ya. ;)

jayryan

  • Supercar
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,211
    • JayFriesen.com
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2007, 11:53:41 AM »
Cole, I'm glad I'm not the only one who loves knowing when a cop has radar on. I do enjoy just "knowing."
'03 A4 1.8TQM
'68 MG C
'06 4Runner

Cole

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,035
    • http://rockcrawler.com
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #20 on: June 07, 2007, 01:22:04 PM »
Up for drinks anytime guys. Just let me know. (The RIO in Lone Tree works great ;))

Cole Ford
Financial Advisor

Cole

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,035
    • http://rockcrawler.com
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #21 on: June 07, 2007, 02:00:38 PM »

Cole Ford
Financial Advisor

Denvernoob

  • Lightly Modded
  • **
  • Posts: 169
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #22 on: June 07, 2007, 02:19:12 PM »
since i bought my car, i have been using the Escort Solo S2....a battery operated corless with no POP protection (like the 8500 x50).  it is basically the old solo 8500 with a cordless feature.  I actually find that it works well for the normal conditions I run in.  I get ample warning for 90% of the radars out there, and ive even had SOME POPs detected.  the only thing i really dont like about it is that while the initial alarm is loud, it automatically lowers the volume after a few seconds (except laser)...and i cant turn this feature off...so if im listening to music fairly loud with the windows down, i may miss the warning alltogether!  this was the case of my ticket 2 yrs ago now (4pts) up by rabbit ear pass....the thing had been going off for about 1/4mi (according to my passenger who decided not to give me the heads up until AFTER we were pulled over...lol) and i just didnt catch it.  so if im in a "spirited" mood, i turn all that crap down now!

battery life is good on these...about 3 weeks to 1 month per change...and i drive 50mi daily in and out of traffic for work...so that isnt bad!  it also picks up laser as good as anyting else...ive actually had a couple of good laser warnings (and ill thank the person in front of me for getting tagged) with well-hidden bike cops.

that is my $.10 (i added energy costs back into the inflation equation, since the government has conviniently left those out for us!) placing us well above 3%...close to 4 or 5%...lol.
004.5 QMT6 Ultrasport Loaded
GIAC FX K04 w/ Injectors, K04-15
and about a million other big and little mods!

Cole

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,035
    • http://rockcrawler.com
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2007, 02:46:21 PM »
that is my $.10 (i added energy costs back into the inflation equation, since the government has conviniently left those out for us!) placing us well above 3%...close to 4 or 5%...lol.

They also forget to add "Starbucks" into OUR basket of goods ;)

Cole Ford
Financial Advisor

methodicalmayhem

  • Lightly Modded
  • **
  • Posts: 272
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2007, 08:29:13 PM »
I have the Passport Escort SR7 remote laser/radar detector and love it. The main reason I went this route is because I hate seeing radar detectors hanging from the windshield (and cops will almost always give you the ticket if they see one, speaking from experience). Plus it's nice to be able to learn where the hot spots are with a detector so when you're not using one you can avoid speeding through those areas.
With this model 99% of the people who look at the car don't even know I have one until I point it out or they ask what the funny looking things in the lower bumper grilles are. And with the remote display someone looking into the car will see the head unit before they even notice the radar unit.
The best part is that it has never failed me. Once I got used to all the false positives I have never been in a position where I didn't know where/when radar or laser was being used. And knowing the locations of heaviest activity has saved me from a few tickets after I destroyed it in the first blizzard.
Studded - Vol. 1 - Our first full length DVD: Now Available!

jayryan

  • Supercar
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,211
    • JayFriesen.com
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2007, 09:56:52 PM »
My detector saved me last night in fact- picked up radar around the corner, I slowed and there he was.

Also passed a cop last night 20 over and he didn't have radar...didn't pull me over either. I was sweating a bit though.
'03 A4 1.8TQM
'68 MG C
'06 4Runner

Richard-EB

  • Lightly Modded
  • **
  • Posts: 182
  • EuroBerge Editor
    • EuroBerge Magazine
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2007, 10:48:38 AM »
I have the Passport Escort SR7 remote laser/radar detector and love it. The main reason I went this route is because I hate seeing radar detectors hanging from the windshield (and cops will almost always give you the ticket if they see one, speaking from experience). Plus it's nice to be able to learn where the hot spots are with a detector so when you're not using one you can avoid speeding through those areas.
With this model 99% of the people who look at the car don't even know I have one until I point it out or they ask what the funny looking things in the lower bumper grilles are. And with the remote display someone looking into the car will see the head unit before they even notice the radar unit.
The best part is that it has never failed me. Once I got used to all the false positives I have never been in a position where I didn't know where/when radar or laser was being used. And knowing the locations of heaviest activity has saved me from a few tickets after I destroyed it in the first blizzard.


if you dont mind me asking, how much did it cost total for your unit installed?  I really like the idea of having a hidden unit, an a laser jammer.  Thanks

Eric18T

  • Heavily Modded
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,668
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2007, 11:08:37 AM »

if you dont mind me asking, how much did it cost total for your unit installed?  I really like the idea of having a hidden unit, an a laser jammer.  Thanks

I was quoted locally $1599 installed + tax. It was a little too rich for my blood.

methodicalmayhem

  • Lightly Modded
  • **
  • Posts: 272
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2007, 12:24:40 AM »
Well I got lucky, and through now lost connections, I only ended up paying around $500 for the unit itself and the install when at the time the going retail rate for the unit was $1100 (which it still is).

Quite honestly paying to have someone install these units is absurd as it's extremely simple. The hardest part is running the wires for the individual laser/radar detection units and that's simple. As far as the laser jammer/shifter, I don't trust the accuracy on these enough to run one on my car.

If this is the route you want to go I would be more than willing to help install the unit. The only problem you're going to run into is the mounting points for the detection units on the front of the car as I am now encountering with the addition of FMIC in the near future.
Studded - Vol. 1 - Our first full length DVD: Now Available!

evil_O

  • Modded
  • ***
  • Posts: 713
Re: Radar detectior questions..
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2007, 09:29:50 AM »
I have a built in radar/laser/vascar... you name it blocker.

 ;D
2006 S4 Sprint Blue
2007 Subaru Wagon 2.5i
2008 Subaru Tribeca (5 pass. Ltd.)

"I hate cops."