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« on: April 27, 2009, 07:14:00 PM »
I some how ened up with a 951 ;)



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Re: Opps!
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 07:33:52 PM »
Good kind of oops to have. :D

Track car?

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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 07:44:10 PM »
Nice Cole, beautiful looking P-car!!!  I want those wheels for my MINI ;)

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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2009, 08:24:17 PM »
Track car, fun project, etc.

Needs some interior love.....thinking micro suede/alcantara ;)


I also need to do some motor work for it (and have an evil swap idea in mind, but that will be down the road a ways)

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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2009, 10:08:14 PM »
Awesome!
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2009, 02:37:48 AM »
I also need to do some motor work for it (and have an evil swap idea in mind, but that will be down the road a ways)

Nice Cole.  Good project car. 

Evil huh? I hope we're not thinking the same thing.
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Re: Opps!
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2009, 12:14:09 PM »
Wow, that looks like a lot of fun.  I love the wheels.

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2009, 03:31:35 PM »
I am considering doing a 1.9L TDI swap ;)

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2009, 06:32:11 PM »
/in the best James May voice/

The first sports car to offer both driver-side and passenger-side airbags.


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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2009, 11:16:32 PM »
Haha.....an option starting in 87. My car is has no airbags.

I do have a sweet wood Momo steering wheel if anyone wants it in trade for something else!

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2009, 11:48:20 PM »
pics of the steering wheel please!!!  I am interested for "garage art" reasons :)

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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2009, 01:20:25 AM »
Here are some interior shots. Cars is a bit rough. Needs some love.

This shot was taken the day I got the car home.




Two hours later. (the seats drove me nuts) ::)




Interior needs some serious love. I am thinking mostly black alcantara, new carpet, alcantara steering wheel, replace the red dash surround with black, gauge rings, LED guages, new shift boot and knob and ......




....and starting the motor work.  :o





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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2009, 12:11:27 PM »
Drop an LS1 in it!
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2009, 12:22:52 PM »
Building a "948" is really the reason I bought it Josh.  Don't really have the time or cash for the swap just yet.  Need to find all the parts first.

So in the meantime I will make it run and work on the restoration stuff.

Just could not pass up the deal on the rolling chassis. 

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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2009, 02:53:40 PM »
what are you looking for in exchange for the Momo?  I doubt I have anything to trade, how much you asking for?

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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2009, 10:04:16 PM »
I honestly have no idea what it is really worth. I just want an Alcantara version of the same wheel basicly. I am open to suggestions.

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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2009, 04:33:11 PM »
Cool!  I have been thinking about the LSx swap for my 968 cabrio.  That's one of the reasons I have not gone ahead with the turbo swap, which I have lots of parts for. $10k-$20k either way.  I'd prefer the V8 power delivery and reliability but some of the rough spots from the conversion worry me.

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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2009, 10:25:41 PM »
I've been looking at the LSx conversions......very nice.


Here is what I currently have.

1 bent valve.

Okay, got the head off and found the problem. Looks like it had one slightly bent valve.

You can see here where the valve on the right is not seated.



You can see here where it contacted the back cyl.




Just a shot of the others.





Not the best shot, but can anyone identify this wastgate?


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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2009, 01:26:19 PM »
No big deal.

You might consider a steam vent mod on the head:

http://www.lindseyracing.com/LR/Parts/STEAMVENT.html

Since you have the head off, if there is any concern about the clutch it's a good time to get after it.  In an 86 the clutch is a lot more difficult due to the exhaust crossover being in the way.  With the head off, that's already out of the way.  And the turbo, that's off too, hmm :-) [personally I think people generally go too big with turbo mods on the 951 and make it an annoying, fiddly money pit but those that set realistic street goals have a pretty good time.]

I've got some 86 951 Europroducts chips and a set of new Metal Master brake pads in the shop someplace too if you need them.  Odds are you've already got some chips.

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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2009, 10:58:12 PM »
I drove the car into the garage, so I am hoping the clutch works fine. Just more work than I initially want to do.

Things I have found in the car so far.

-Huntley racing chips.
-4" Magnaflow exhaust from the wastegate back, no cat.
-MBC
-K&N cone filter and what looks like some sort of MAF conversion
-Boost gauge.
-Head has been ported, polished and O-ringed and had a Wide fire head gasket on it. (now I just need to replace the one bad valve)
-Upgraded BPV
-Tial 38mm waste gate.
-Koni shocks in the rear, can't see the front. Needs a front left lower control arm.....anyone have one???

Can't tell if some of the other stiff is stock or upgraded.


 :o :o

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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2009, 11:17:03 PM »
Needs a front left lower control arm.....anyone have one???

You would probably be able to find one here: http://www.nasarockymountain.com/nasa_forums/forumdisplay.php?f=20 There's a lot of good knowledge with the Spec944 guys as well.  I may have some other resources to find parts if you need them ;)

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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2009, 11:24:40 PM »
Thanks for the link. Did not really see what I was looking for in there.

I need 1 turbo exhaust valve, wide fire head gasket(complete set for reinstalling the head), control arm.

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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2009, 12:27:24 AM »
Wow Cole, car has some nice parts on it!
ttp://www.projectonelap.com

Stock parts for sale, contact me for info!

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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2009, 02:16:40 AM »
Thanks for the link. Did not really see what I was looking for in there.

I need 1 turbo exhaust valve, wide fire head gasket(complete set for reinstalling the head), control arm.

Join and post up there, itemizing what you need.  There's a bunch of cars in various stages of completion and having been upgraded leaving spare parts you could use.  Just let them know I sent you ;)
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« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2009, 11:04:37 AM »
A big local auto parts store should have injector kits for you, or you can save a few bucks and order them from Rockauto (or whoever.)  I got some at Checker last go-round.

Other tips:  Many like to switch to studs for the exhaust manifold.  They get them for a Saturn at the dealer, search the RL 951 forum if you are interested.

An 86 also does not have the flexible exhaust manifold (stock) and the stock 1-4 manifold is prone to cracking.  If you still have the 86 manifold I'd suggest getting the later version.

Likewise the 86 has the one-piece crossover under the car that makes the clutch job hellish.  You can fit a later one or an aftermarket crossover, or just plan on a crossover removal when you need access to the clutch.

Someone already suggested fuel lines yes they are a common failure point and lead to a car-b-q.  Make sure the little jumper hose is OK too (or replace it.)

I have some control arms but they are late offset (87+.)  The lefts are usually in better shape used due to power steering leaks damaging the bushings on the RH side.  Rennbay sells balljoint kits, but if you need the other bushings you might just get a rebuilt arm or a good used one.  968 rear control arm mounts (the ones with the eccentric) are an upgrade, less mushy.

I have the crank lock and timing belt tools.  I also have a 9201 but you need to retension the belts after a short time so it's better to have your own way of setting belt tension.

You need to get the crank bolt on properly tight or you may lose oil pressure.  The crank lock helps a lot.

Check the part number on your DME (fuel pump and brain) Relay, if it's old they tend to stop working and leave you stranded.  If it's old either replace it with the 993 part or carry a jumper wire to get home.  You can also pop the cover off and wedge some paper in there to get the contacts to close, that sometimes works.  usually people just get the new part and carry the old one as a spare, but there is a chance your has already been replaced.

Good luck,
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« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2009, 11:53:25 AM »
Thanks for the info Joel.

Keep the information coming. Trying to get up to speed on this car as quickly as possible.

Sounds like my exhaust has been updated. It had studs on the header flanges, there is flex pipe in the headers, and I rememeber seeing 3-4 flanges at the wastegate.

I think I will try a ball joint rebuild kit.

Power steering growned bad when I put the car in the garage. So something there needs work.


It sounds like the guy I bought the car from had no clue what he had. It was probably the guy that had it before him that did all this work and the guy I got it from simply had no clue, then when it broke he just wanted to get rid of it.

You could tell talking to him he had no idea about the car. He kept saying "I have no idea what this guy did to the car (refering to the guy he bought it from) but it is FAAAASSSSSTTTTTT!!!!". Or course I shrugged off all the fast comments from him because you never know what their reference point is. The stock 217hp could have been fast to him.



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Re: Opps!
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2009, 02:12:10 AM »
$7.50 worth of interior restoration.

Thought I would try the Duplicolor vinyl stuff first. (since it is at the store down the street).

Keep in mind the rest of the interior is not done, or even fully assembled yet. But you get the idea. (dash and console only at this point)

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« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2009, 02:44:50 AM »
Wow, that is seriously impressive.  Nice way to spend $7.50
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« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2009, 10:53:25 AM »
pretty damn impressive!
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« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2009, 12:42:05 PM »
Nice, I have a can sitting in my garage ti do my arm rests and my dash on the Scout. Looks good.