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Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on June 28, 2004, 02:28:46 PM
Rocky Mountain Club B5 is having our annual GTG from Friday, August 20th to Sunday, August 22nd.   We are renting Second Creek Raceway for the entire day (8:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m.) for $2,000. We expect to have 20 to 35 participants. The more people that come, the less it is per person. If 30 people show, it'll be $67 per driver. If 40 people show, it'll be $50 per driver. Normally it costs $100 per driver for a full day, so this should be a great opportunity to get out there and have some fun. All money paid will go to SCR. In other words, Rocky Mountain Club B5 will not make money on this.

The event is open to all friends and family of RMCB5.  If you know of any others that would like to go, feel free to invite them.

I will be handling the financials. If you'd like to go, please post here and I will send you an e-mail with payment information. If you have any questions, please post them here so others can see the response, too. In order for this to work we need a financial commitment. I need to have $2,000 no later than Saturday, July 31st.  I am required to have the money available for SCR, since I'm the one signing the contract. I wish I were in the financial position to front the $$$ for everyone, but alas....

I'm asking for people to submit $100 initially. Assuming there are more than 20 people that attend, you'll get a refund of the difference within a week or two after the event. The amount of the refund depends solely on the number of participants.

Track Prep:
Be sure to bring plenty of water and ice, food to share, chairs, sunscreen, stopwatches, digicams, and videocams.

Some other things you'll want to check on your car are oil, brakes and tire pressure. Be sure to come with a full tank of gas, too!

I will have a few canopies set up for shade.

Anyone that goes on the track is required to wear a helmet. If you don't have one, see if you can find one to borrow before track day.  The last thing we want is a lack of helmets that will limit everyone's time on the track.  If you canít come up with one don't worry. There might be a couple extras there to borrow.

Last year we had around 22 drivers and we had all the track time we could stand.  The track will easily support 30 drivers, so there is no need to be concerned with having too many people there and not getting enough track time.  This track day is open to all members of RMCB5 as well as any family and friends.  We hope to have a significant number of MINIs and older VWs show, too.
We hope to have four collapsible tents/shelters there, but itís a good idea to bring something to sit on.  Of course youíll want to bring plenty to eat and drink.
Here are a couple useful links to check out if youíve never spent time on a track:
http://www.audipages.com/on_track/tracktips.html
http://www.audiworld.com/tech/misc9.shtml
http://www.2ndcreekraceway.com/index.html


The following is a list of people from which I've received payment:
Denver Pat
NoobShum
J. Souza
B. Mott
A. Shum
A. Duncan
R. Weber
R. Weber's friend with Sti
A. Allspaugh
E. Johnston
P. Taylor
M. Bradley
J. Schilling
R. Reed
A. Spear
R. Ragan
J. Wilson
P. Subrizi
S. Putro
J. Coleman
J. Seedig
C. Herman
A. Robertson
M. Elings
A. Wong
C. Herman
G. Barclay
C. Barclay
J. Kessel
S. Powell
D. Ament
P. Ament
M. Vercauteren
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on June 28, 2004, 05:03:52 PM
I am a definite maybe at this point.  I know there are 2 MINI guys that are gonna sign up...Jonathan S. and Brad M.  So count them in the numbers.  I am gonna have the MINI guys send me checks in your name Pat, then I will get them to you, if that is OK?  That way at least they know who they are sending the money to.

Thanks for all the prep work on this one, I know it is no easy task

cheers
jon
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on June 28, 2004, 05:06:40 PM
Sounds good to me.  It'll be nice to see Brad again.  I don't remember Jonathan S., though.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on June 28, 2004, 07:57:37 PM
Jonathan S was not there last year, but he is the president of  MINI5280.org.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on June 28, 2004, 08:14:28 PM
I am putting it on my calendar!  Send me the payment details Pat.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on June 29, 2004, 06:10:13 AM
Hey Andrew!  Pat, of course, put me down too!  Thanks for taking care of the track day details.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: jayryan on June 29, 2004, 06:44:16 AM
I'm really gonna try, but don't put me down just yet. If I take any day off it'll probably be Sunday.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoMark on June 29, 2004, 11:05:37 AM
I should be there, assuming I don't blister another set of tires between now and then. I'll get a check to you in a couple of weeks.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: G-Money on June 29, 2004, 02:12:34 PM
Hey Pat, I am most definitally down. Send me the payment forms.
Greg M.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on June 29, 2004, 02:55:47 PM
I am in.  let me know where to send the $$
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: UberGrrl on June 29, 2004, 03:38:25 PM
I'm all over it like white on rice.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on June 29, 2004, 07:04:06 PM
I definitely want to go, let me know on the payment thing so I can send it.  I hopefully will have some new brake pads before this though, I am not sure the current ones would make it through a full day of track time  :)

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on June 30, 2004, 03:02:55 PM
Jonathan, please add your email address to your account.  I don't have it.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on June 30, 2004, 07:59:17 PM
Done, if it didn't work, my email address is    docslackerco@yahoo.com

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 01, 2004, 03:15:59 PM
Well I'm in as well. I'm not sure what the details are for Ian's school yet, but this should work out OK. This year he goes every day of the week, all day. I am hoping to get my wife to come out as well and see what this is all about. Should be fun! :)

I'll see if my nephew with the RSX Type S will be coming this year. Maybe he'll take it easier and stay on the track! :rolleyes:

Send me the info Pat.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on July 02, 2004, 10:07:19 AM
Hey Pat,

I put this on my calendar. I also called my friend w/ the M Roadster. Waiting to hear from him.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Rusty on July 02, 2004, 12:52:21 PM
I'm in but I might be on a road trip to the Boston area on this weekend.  I'll know for sure in a week or two.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 05, 2004, 09:52:10 PM
I talked to the nephew. He says he's in as well as a friend with a Subi WRX that has been tweeked.

So I guess there will be some other types of cars there to play with. :)
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 92UrS4 on July 06, 2004, 08:47:42 AM
Hopefully Clay will be able to make it with his Evo 8.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 07, 2004, 01:41:15 PM
Has anything been planned for after the track day event? If not, I would like to open up my place to an after track party. I live not too far from the track and have the space for us all. Just a thought if this hasn't already been discussed. Let me know! :)
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on July 07, 2004, 01:54:15 PM
Well Chas, we were originally planning on going to the Blake Street Tavern since they are sponsoring us to some extent.  Since that moved to Sunday, we are open for Friday evening, so that sounds good.  

Pat is in charge of coordinating that day, so contact him with your plans and he can integrate it into the day's festivities.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on July 07, 2004, 02:19:47 PM
I have recruted a friend with an STi and maybe an S4...

This is going to be a good little shoot-out.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on July 07, 2004, 02:28:47 PM
Sweet!  That means two STi's and an Evo 8 means some good competition.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on July 07, 2004, 02:37:08 PM
maybe a 400 HP S4 too...
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 92UrS4 on July 07, 2004, 02:53:56 PM
Clay also mentioned he has a buddy with a brand new S4, so i told him to see if he might want to partake. Sounds like there are going to be not just some sweet Passats, but some other kickass cars there too!

I ams o jealous! I'll be driving into Jackson on this day so I'll drive really fast and think of you guys.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 07, 2004, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: "ColoradoB5"
Well Chas, we were originally planning on going to the Blake Street Tavern since they are sponsoring us to some extent.  Since that moved to Sunday, we are open for Friday evening, so that sounds good.  

Pat is in charge of coordinating that day, so contact him with your plans and he can integrate it into the day's festivities.


Cool Winston, I'll get with him once he returns from his trip, but when is that suppose to be?
Title: Re: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: LEDdude on July 08, 2004, 04:48:21 PM
Quote from: "Denver Pat"
Rocky Mountain Club B5 is having our annual GTG from Friday, August 20th to Sunday, August 22nd.   We are renting Second Creek Raceway for the entire day (8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m.) for $2,000.


hello everyone.  I have a few questions...

directed to the quote above, which day will the actual track day be?  Friday or Sat or Sun?

also, i have some Ford friends that would love to join in....it'll make your price go down , so that's got to be good.

some have SVT Contours, modified, and some beefy SHO's...  (one of the SHO's caught up with a 360 Modena at PPIR!  I saw the video 8O )

would you guys mind if some of them show up to add in?

thanks for your time, guys.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 92UrS4 on July 08, 2004, 05:04:31 PM
Track day is Friday August 20th.  Talk to Denver Pat on here about  numbers, he is the track event coordinator.

Welcome to the club.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: PlatoSVT on July 08, 2004, 11:30:54 PM
Hello all, My name's Chris. LEDdood is one of my forum buds and "non-Mustang" Ford fans. I'm essentially who he is posting for, so I figure'd I'd do it myself. Basically, I was talking to LED about getting a nice track day in with some of the Ford Focus SVT, Contour SVT, and Taurus SHO guys for a good price. He mentioned he might not be able to make it, but he could ask around for me, then sent me the info on this one, so here I am.

I entirely understand if you do not want us encroaching on your space and/or G2G, but if you would have us it would be great. I don't think we would get anymore than 15 people, of if you'd like you could limit us to 10 or what have you. But if you wouldn't mind a few Ford guys (no we aren't your typical Mustang fella's, we are all very respectable, and very very friendly and open) joining you, it would be great to do this with you chaps.  

I believe we have one member that even has an a SVTContour and an S4, so that should be interesting. Let me know if I should start gauging interest from the SHO/SVT guys, and I can get back to you with an estimate of # of people. Thanks for the thought ~ Chris
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on July 09, 2004, 03:39:58 AM
I think a few guys are fine...we are all enthusiasts.  It all comes down to attitude and good sportsmanship, and respect for others that are learning.  You may not always be able to go the fastest, but you will have a great time.

I don't want to speak for everyone, but having a few of you all out there would be awesome.

cheers
jon
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 92UrS4 on July 09, 2004, 07:42:59 AM
One other point, though this is our National GTG, the concern about "who's coming" isn't about what kind of car someone has, it's about having too many people at the track.

We are renting the track for the day which will translate into a per person cost to make it more affordable.  So don't think that by our loose answers that we are saying no or blowing anyone off.

Since Pat is the co-ordinator we aren't sure what the headcount is at this point so it's hard for any of us to make a decision without knowing.

I think Pat may be out of town, but when he is available I'm sure he'll chime in.  You can send him a PM via the site as well to inquire.

We still have some time before the track day so keep checking in and thanks for your interest in our club.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: PlatoSVT on July 09, 2004, 08:08:35 AM
Allright, thanks for the hospitality guys, I PM'ed Dan, and hopefully he'll allow us to attend. To do some butt kissing, I absolutely LOVE Audi's and Mini's so hopefully he'll at least allow a few of us so that I can come out and enjoy the views  :cool:  But I think just about everyone out there respects Audi's, so I guess my compliments should come at no surprise. Any chance an RS6 will be out there? I recall seeing one in the mountains on I-70 on my way back from Mt. Evans, beautiful car. Another fond memory was seeing a show on the Speed Channel that did a little piece on the Mini's, showing them doing jumps, two wheeler's, 180's and such in a very small little area. I was ready to get to a dealership that instant, but my SVT keeps me pretty busy as it is.  

Oh and for some decent competition, one of our SHO's has been supercharged to the max, with all the appropriate suspension and safety modifications. Recently dyno'ed at a whopping 445 hp I believe. His name's Pat, great guy, and a very good track/auto-x racer. He should be all for this, so I'm just crossing my fingers that you'll have room for us. ~ Chris
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on July 09, 2004, 08:37:09 AM
I'm all for as many people as possible to keep the costs down, but I'm not coordinating. I remember my very first time at SCR included S2000s, Ford Contour SVTs, Audi, BMW, VW, motorcycles, and kit race cars. It was great!

I wouldn't mind 40 people at the track ($50/person). We're not all driving at once.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on July 09, 2004, 09:32:39 AM
I am all for the group expanding to include others.  Not only will it keep the cost down, but it will give us the opportunity to show people the error of their ways.

Just kidding....  

I am for it.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on July 11, 2004, 03:31:08 PM
Hey kids, I just got back into town.  Chas, thank you VERY much for offering your place for the party after the track.  That's very nice.  I think that's a great idea, especially considering your location relative to the track.  Unless anyone objects, I say go for it.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: LEDdude on July 11, 2004, 09:18:27 PM
well, kinda pertaining to the RS6's,   i and some of the Focus guys went on a cool mountain drive to Glenwood springs today, and then got back to traffic at Idaho Springs.  So we went around past Mt Evans to Evergreen to bypass it and have some nice twisty runs.....  but passed 3 Brand New A6's in a row, going the opposite way, and passed by a few more sitting in a gravel parking lot with no one in them, or around, not too far from the interstate.

Yep, the new A6's....i don't think the're out, yet.  Right?   They look really nice...fooled me , i thought they were A8's....but not as long   but very nice.  but one of our guys noticed that the last one that passed, had dealer tags.  So i guess they were taking them on a test drive.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on July 12, 2004, 05:43:03 AM
Quote from: "LEDdude"

Yep, the new A6's....i don't think the're out, yet.  Right?  


In fact, the new C6 platform A6 is out, is has a 3.2V6 and I believe there is also a 4.2 V8 version.  They have been at the dealers for about a month or so now.  There is also a 2 door hatch A3 floating around somewhere, there were pics of it on Audiworld for a local Rocky Mountain Drive they had on July 4th.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on July 12, 2004, 12:28:32 PM
So lets get a list of cars and drivers going for the track day.  I would like to see a running total so we know who is comming, what the cost will be, and who we want to talk shit to...

I am in.  I also have commitmet of a WRX STi, and a BMW 328.  That is three cars adn three drivers.

Next...
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 92UrS4 on July 12, 2004, 12:30:40 PM
Oh I have a friend who lives down the street from Jon (03Indigo) that is interested as well.

His concern is cost so if there's room and the cost is reasonable I should be able to get him to hang with you kids.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on July 12, 2004, 12:31:48 PM
Right on Randy.  Good work.  Pat I'm sure, will just keep editing the top post on this topic to update the drivers along with our current financial goal to get to $100 a person then $50 a person.

Remember, the day of it will be $100 flat fee so plan on getting some cash to him before the end of July.

Winston
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on July 12, 2004, 01:13:57 PM
The first post on this thread now contains a list I will update at payment is received.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 92UrS4 on July 12, 2004, 01:14:10 PM
Oh yeah, just put the word out with cost to my buddy with the 400hp+ Mustang (down the dtreet from Jon) and another friend who has a 993.

Where the hell is that n00b with the Evo. Get on his case. :)
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on July 12, 2004, 01:16:43 PM
Quote from: "gietl"
Communist Leader of the RMCB5 Regime.


Now that is some funny stuff mang!

Where's my vodka, comrade?
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on July 12, 2004, 03:04:56 PM
Quote from: "gietl"
Oh yeah, just put the word out with cost to my buddy with the 400hp+ Mustang


if he is going, have him get a hold of me and I will car train out there with him, and help him with anything he needs to get ready for track day.

cheers
jon
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 92UrS4 on July 12, 2004, 03:09:23 PM
Thanks Jon, he is an experienced racer that we might learn a thing or two from.  He is heading out to PPIR a few weeks after our track day which is why cost is a factor.

You should hook up with him and get a ride.  I haven't ridden in it with the new engine and supercharger so I am dying to go for a spin.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on July 12, 2004, 03:12:35 PM
ooohhhh, supercharger, now THAT sounds fun!!!!  I should try to connect with him, but I am never home these days, so hopefully he can make the track day for a testing session before PPIR.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on July 12, 2004, 03:33:27 PM
Oh great we have moved from a nice little cult to a full-blown Regiem!  Next we are going to have a revolution and all sorts of crazyness....

For a communist regiem we sure are tollerant of "Auslanders".  But that is good, we are a kinder, gentler bunch of commies.

- I do have something to add that is relavant...Make sure you check with your insurance company to see if you have an exclusion on your policy for this type of activity.  You can simply ask the question, "do I have coverage if I take my car to a "driving school" or "track"  for  a day.  Be sure to let thenm know youare not RACING your car, just taking it to a track to improve your driving.  Most insurance WILL cover this, but all insurance EXCLUDES racing.

Now back to your regularly scheduled life....
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on July 13, 2004, 11:32:25 AM
Randy, that is a very good point.  We are not actually racing.  No competition is going on, we are just driving on the track.  

I will follow up on that with my company, USAA.  Or was it the FDA?  FDIC?
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: WildWillard on July 19, 2004, 07:47:22 AM
DenverPat -

I'm the 993 owner Gietl talked about. I'm in - do you PayPal, or how should I send you the $?

Also, I have a friend with a RS4'd S4 who might make it later in the day, and another friend with a "new" 85 Carrera who might also. This could be fun. Thanks for the invite!

Doug
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on July 19, 2004, 07:49:22 AM
Quote from: "WildWillard"
DenverPat -

I'm the 993 owner Gietl talked about. I'm in - do you PayPal, or how should I send you the $?

Also, I have a friend with a RS4'd S4 who might make it later in the day, and another friend with a "new" 85 Carrera who might also. This could be fun. Thanks for the invite!

Doug


Hey, what's your email address?  Just click on the email icon at the bottom of this post and send me one that way.  I'll send you the payment info.  No, I don't do PayPal.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 19, 2004, 05:20:37 PM
Shit Pat, why don't you have a PayPal account?  I was going to ask the same thing. Oh, well. I'll figure it out somehow.

BTW, how is the you know what doing on the your A4?  :P
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on July 19, 2004, 05:33:26 PM
Quote from: "Chas"
Shit Pat, why don't you have a PayPal account?  I was going to ask the same thing. Oh, well. I'll figure it out somehow.

BTW, how is the you know what doing on the your A4?  :P


It acts now just like it did one mile from your place.  I think this may be it.  Let's give it a couple more weeks to be sure. :-)
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on July 19, 2004, 06:48:32 PM
Pat, I have another check coming our way, from another MINI guy, Peter Taylor.  Just wanted to give you the heads up.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on July 20, 2004, 09:01:15 AM
Reminder:  If you intend on driving SCR on the 20th, I'll need to have a check from you no later than the end of this month.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on July 22, 2004, 09:39:06 AM
The $$$ is in the mail to you today Pat.

Thanks again for taking care of this!!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 22, 2004, 01:31:36 PM
OK guys, So the after track day party will be at my place. I am open to having you all come and enjoy yourselves. Of course I'll want to enjoy as much track time as possible, but I'll still need to get going home in time to get things ready for the evening.

Obviously I won't be able to buy all the food to feed everyone and I'm sure you guys would want that either. So we need to have a hand count of what everyone wants to eat afterwards.

*Burgers
*Brats (I was thinking about getting a couple of racks)
*Ribs
*Beer (of course)
*Potato salad
*chips
*soda
*or anthing else that fits at a party like this!

So if there is something you really want to see, let me know.

Also, what time do wee want to start this thing off at? What time are we done at the track? And I'm sure some folks will want to head home first to clean up and get their better halves or little ones. Like I said, everyone is invited. The backyard at my place is very kid friendly so bring them all! Also bring your mosquito spray too. There is a large pond near the house and we do get the bugs. I wouldn't want anyone getting any West Nile baddness.

Anyhow, chime in!!! Please!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on July 22, 2004, 01:36:05 PM
Very cool!   :D
My friend Matt will be in from out of town all weekend.  He'll be at the track with us, so sign me up for two, maybe three.  Not sure what I'll do for food yet, but I'm guessing Matt and I will just bring a little something to eat for the two of us, and maybe a little more.  If I remember right, we'll shut the track down around 6:00.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 22, 2004, 01:54:40 PM
So maybe we should plan on having folks over at 7 ish???

You guys let me know, we can do it when ever...

Also, I did talk to my nieghbor, the lady with the Convertable Carrera. She was very interested in coming out with us. So I might have a someone else as well.

Also, I am working on building three more in car camera mounts. Winston and/or Pat was working with someone at SoundTrack to get us a deal on Pan/Tilt heads for the aluminum headrest mounts. The footage we get from these cameras will be killer. The camera will be able to be mounted in many different ways to get all sorts of great shots. Winston was talking about putting together a DVD with all the different footage. So we should see what formate we'll need to cut this DVD together. I assume a digital format is all that is needed and then some sort of Firewire system into a computer with an editting capability. I can talk to my brother about using his system and camera. He does all of his diving stuff at home and it looks great!

As for the cameras, also remember to bring them to the after track party. We can preview the footage at my house on my Vega for a lot of laughs!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on July 22, 2004, 02:05:43 PM
as for camera mounts, anyone seen this one, comes with the little camera, mount, and wires, and is reasonable.  I was considering this, but don't have a digital cam to plug it into

http://store.northamericanmotoring.com/customer/product.php?productid=25&cat=&page=
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoMark on July 22, 2004, 02:41:56 PM
Chas,

Where's your house? I might be tempted into a brat and a brew after SCR if it doesn't take me to far away from home in the Fort. Thanks for the offer!
Mark
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 22, 2004, 07:21:36 PM
That's totally cool Jon! It seems like that little camera takes some reasonably good images. And the price is right too! I do know SCR doesn't allow cameras mounted outside the car, but with that little suction cup, you could hide it anywhere and no one would be the wiser. I might have to get me one of those and right it off as a business expense. It's video gear is it not?  :P That would supply some very cool images to say the least.

As for my house, I live about 20 minutes south of the race track. Not far at all. That's why I decided to offer up my place for the after track event. I'm hoping not to be working on the Thursday before track day so as to get all the prep work done early.

PM me for the address and directions.  :-D
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on July 22, 2004, 10:11:33 PM
but remember Chas, we are having a private session, so they have no say over what we video, or how we video it, and the worst they could do is tell us to take it off, so then we take it off and film from the inside of the car.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on July 25, 2004, 10:37:47 PM
True about the video there, Jon.  We have the track to ourselves, so something like that would be very cool.

Chas, G-money has a buddy that is making camera mounts and wants to sell them for $40.  I was thinking that might be a good cheap option and you wouldn't have to do any work.  A pretty good deal, I'd say.  Have you made the rest of the parts though?  If so, I'll let Greg know and see what else I can find, but the pickings, as they say, have been slim.  Where did you get yours?

Dub
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: EmeraldInferno on July 25, 2004, 10:45:34 PM
it's good to see my legs sticking out of chas' moonroof after so many years.


I'll be there,   and if the insurance company is nice, I might have me a nice car to get on the track.   But since I wont be racing my truck, I will just bring some refreshments and my smart ass jokes.

Em.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 26, 2004, 02:56:59 PM
Hi Guys! Back in town from a weekend with the family up in Glenwood Springs. Well I started in on the mounts and have most of the aluminum cut and drilled. I was cutting out the mounting points for the pan/tilt head when I almost lanched one through the windshield of my car. A new windshield BTW!!!! Anyhow, work is progressing with them.

What are you talking about Winston? Is this guy making the whole deal or just a part? I thought I was doing the camera mounts? Please let me know so I don't waste any time or aluminum doing something someone else has now taken up.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on July 26, 2004, 03:05:01 PM
Dub is talking about the entire mount.  I don't have any details, but it sounds like we can buy the finished product for $40 per unit.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 26, 2004, 05:00:51 PM
OK, well that's news to me. I thought I was the one building them. It would have been nice had someone told me before I went out and bought some stuff to finish them up. Idems at this point I can't return.

Please let me know if I should bother with them any further. I have two almost done and all the pieces for the third cut and waiting.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: aowhaus on July 27, 2004, 07:55:38 AM
I'm in on the track day.
Let me know where to direct the moolah.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on July 27, 2004, 07:57:07 AM
Quote from: "aowhaus"
I'm in on the track day.
Let me know where to direct the moolah.

Please send me an email and I'll email you the instructions.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on July 27, 2004, 06:31:37 PM
Chas, I want one if you have one to sell, let me know please  :)  I don't have a camara yet to use for it, but I do want the mount if I can maybe borrow my brother's video camara or something!

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 92UrS4 on July 27, 2004, 07:11:22 PM
Chas let me know on cost as well, I wouldn't mind having one
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on July 28, 2004, 08:50:40 AM
Pat - Check number two is in the mail today.  This is for my friend Jay with the WRX STi.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Rusty on July 29, 2004, 11:45:05 AM
Whew...

Thanks to some really good friends, I'll be able to make the track day.   Now if I can just get my leaking FPR replaced in time... Put me down, Pat!

 :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

Hey, how come the "Very Happy" smiley is smaller than the "Happy" smiley? :?:
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 29, 2004, 01:08:58 PM
Quote from: "Rusty"
Whew...

Thanks to some really good friends, I'll be able to make the track day.   Now if I can just get my leaking FPR replaced in time... Put me down, Pat!

 :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D

Hey, how come the "Very Happy" smiley is smaller than the "Happy" smiley? :?:


That's great news man, I'm very glad to hear that you'll be making it! Money well spent is the way I see it!  8)  :-D  :-D  :-D  :)  :)  :)

And to your second point, I've often thought the same thing. Why? WHY? For God's sake WHY??????????

OK, so maybe not that big of a why, but still...  :P :roll:
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: SweetVW on July 29, 2004, 01:25:42 PM
Hey I won't be racing, but is there a cost just to watch?  I will be able to go.  I can be the road side camera guy
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on July 29, 2004, 01:38:59 PM
Randy, there's no cost to watch and even go for rides.  We'd love to see you out there.  Got a stopwatch to record lap times for people.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 92UrS4 on July 29, 2004, 01:42:48 PM
You mean Dave ;)
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on July 29, 2004, 01:46:47 PM
DOH!  Damn screen names.  No you know why I chose the one I did.   :?
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on July 29, 2004, 02:38:39 PM
Quote from: "Denver Pat"
Randy, there's no cost to watch and even go for rides.  We'd love to see you out there.  Got a stopwatch to record lap times for people.


Hey  :whaasup:   :evil:  :evil:
I will be driving.  I have sent you $200.00 and I will be getting my moeny worth out of two cars!!!

 :mrgreen:  :thumbsup:
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 29, 2004, 04:01:54 PM
What other car are you bringing man? Or is the the buddy you where refering to?

I'm still hoping to get my nephew out there with his nasty RSX-S. I like to drive that little bugger on the track!

Hey all, also remember to get yourself some Toluene to bump your octane rating and keep the detonation down to a minumum. Kwal-Howell paint stores sell it. About $10 for a gallon of 114 octane. Half a gallon of the stuff really improves the drivability of your turbo hotrods in the heat!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on July 29, 2004, 04:05:32 PM
Also, If anyone wants one of my camera mounts that I made, PM me and I'll get them done this coming wekend. I'm going to be out of town tomorrow, but I'll be back tomorrow night. Then I'm gone for about two weeks up in Crested Butte doing a Indie Film. I hope I'll have access of some sort to the internet just to check my email and this place once in a while. But I will be back on the 17th.

Have fun while I'm gone!!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on July 29, 2004, 04:33:39 PM
Looks like my friend didn't get payment to you yet Pat. I'll give him a ring.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on July 30, 2004, 07:13:26 AM
The other car is my friends STi.

Thanks for the tip on the octane, got to get me some of that!!!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: the_russian on July 30, 2004, 01:23:25 PM
Hey guys. Iwon't be driving but i'm defenatly gonna be thereand i'll bring my cam and a stopwatch(if i can find it) so i'll help you getting the track times. Besides i just wanna meet some members, the i've only met a couple at the VWOTG...but anyways i'll see you there.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Rusty on July 30, 2004, 03:23:19 PM
Quote from: "Chas"
...Hey all, also remember to get yourself some Toluene to bump your octane rating and keep the detonation down to a minumum. Kwal-Howell paint stores sell it. About $10 for a gallon of 114 octane. Half a gallon of the stuff really improves the drivability of your turbo hotrods in the heat!


That's a great tip, Chas, and lots cheaper than race gas.  If we only need 1/2 gal, does anyone wanna go halvsies on a gallon?  I'm not sure I want to make a road trip with a gallon of Tolulene in my car... it might leak and I might get flashbacks to the days of building model airplanes... :lol:
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 01, 2004, 10:16:02 PM
Hey Chas, I still found out and to my knowledge it is still up in the air until it is completely done.  Since I got the whole ball running with you on that and have been a little swamped to try and keep up, I will still buy at least one of them from you, but I still need to find the mounting plate, which I have not been able to find yet.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 01, 2004, 10:21:24 PM
Hey Chas, I just saw a PM from Greg and he has DVDs with footage of the mounts and the quality, I believe.  

For now, go ahead and put them on hold.  We will sell the ones you made, but since these will not require us to track down the mounting plates, this may be easier all around.  

I just installed my first windshield too.  Not too tough, but it was a slight pain getting the seal cut out all of the way around.  The old windshield did not survive the extraction.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: aowhaus on August 03, 2004, 10:06:06 AM
Woo hoo, I have a spare unopened canister of Toulene in my garage -- I was supposed to use it for a furniture restoration project.  I didn't know you could use it in your gas tank!

Pat: the check is in the mail!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 03, 2004, 12:04:50 PM
Here is a very good atricle on the Toulene AKA Rocket Fuel.

I am going to give a test run today when I fill up..

http://www.elektro.com/~audi/audi/toluene.html
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 03, 2004, 01:05:36 PM
nice Randy!  That's a good article.  Imma have to save that one.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 34k on August 03, 2004, 03:58:33 PM
That's awesome... speaking of which, Pat? Could you post that list of Denver area fuel stations that do 93 Octane? I'd rather do a full on test and boost from there than plain 'ole 91.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on August 03, 2004, 04:05:04 PM
Quote from: "34k"
That's awesome... speaking of which, Pat? Could you post that list of Denver area fuel stations that do 93 Octane? I'd rather do a full on test and boost from there than plain 'ole 91.

Your wish is my command...
http://octane.jsalmi.com/
I plan on mixing about half 91 and half 100 for track day.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on August 03, 2004, 08:14:52 PM
There is also a lil tiny corner store / gas station in Hygiene that sells 93 octane, just found it about a month or so ago.  If you know where Hygiene is, you can't miss it, cause I think it is the only corner in the town with stop signs ;)

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on August 03, 2004, 08:24:07 PM
Hygiene has more than 1 corner?
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on August 03, 2004, 08:26:34 PM
Quote from: "gragravar"
Hygiene has more than 1 corner?


LOL well.... I think if you follow the road down through Hygiene, "technically" there are a few corners ;)

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 04, 2004, 07:12:58 AM
For those who are not going to seek out the 93 here are some quick formulas:

Formulations:

16 Gallons  - Total capacity of tank (3 gallons always in tank) 13 left

Toluene 114 is octane

(12.5*91) + (.5*114) / 16 = 91.7 :-)

(12.0*91) + (1*114) / 16 = 92.4 :)

(11.5*91) + (1.5*114) / 16 = 93.1 :-D

(11.0*91) + (2*114) / 16 = 93.9 :D

**THESE ARE CALCULATED ACCOUNTING FOR THE 3 GALLONS IN THE TANK**
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: madigan on August 04, 2004, 09:54:52 AM
So Randy,

A train leaves Denver heading to Chicago at 7pm. Over the 1011 mile journey it has an average speed of 80 mph. What time does it arrive in Chicago?

:)
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 04, 2004, 10:06:36 AM
Quote from: "madigan"
So Randy,

A train leaves Denver heading to Chicago at 7pm. Over the 1011 mile journey it has an average speed of 80 mph. What time does it arrive in Chicago?

:)


 :sneaky:   Well it depends on how far you get befor I catch you and beat the crap out of you :oha:  :whaasup:

 :mrgreen: J/K - you got me
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 04, 2004, 12:14:14 PM
Looks like that link is Kaput, so everyone post the places that they know of that carry 93 Octane and above.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on August 04, 2004, 12:27:22 PM
Here you go suckas:

Colorado Sportbike Club - High-Octane Pumps (http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/local/highoctane.html)

As far as i know, only place near us that does 93 octane is Petro Stop in Aurora/Centennial that does 93.5 or something whacky. It's at Parker and Quincy - can't miss it.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on August 05, 2004, 05:34:19 PM
So all the paids so far is who will be driving ? I was wondering because there are a couple people I know through work that might be interested in driving the track.  Do we want more people ? I have talked to at least 2 other people that showed interest (and one of them had at least 1 friend who may be interested in track day).  And if we want as many people as possible, I know of 2 others that I could ask...

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on August 05, 2004, 08:09:53 PM
If you think they would be fun to have, go for it.  All the people I've received payment from are listed on the original post.  I'm sure there will be others there not driving, but I haven't been keeping track of them.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on August 06, 2004, 08:52:47 PM
Talked to a couple people today, one person is the husband of one of my patients, and she said he is out of town but sounded very interested on the phone (he is out of town at some kinda race in NE and needs to check to see if he can get this day off).  Other guy bought his a wife a Viper a few months ago, and he would like to do it, but has to talk to the boss (since the car is technically hers!).  Will let ya know when they get back to me.

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: jayryan on August 08, 2004, 07:42:25 AM
Quote from: "shummer"
Here you go suckas:

Colorado Sportbike Club - High-Octane Pumps (http://www.cosportbikeclub.org/local/highoctane.html)

As far as i know, only place near us that does 93 octane is Petro Stop in Aurora/Centennial that does 93.5 or something whacky. It's at Parker and Quincy - can't miss it.


That place is like ghetto's ville. I"ll have to check it out after I chipped, it's like a block from my house!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 09, 2004, 02:16:14 PM
Everyone have a helmet!  I will have 2 canopies for shade, but we need to have chairs, everyone should have a helmet, water, and anything else you think you may want.

Last year, we ordered pizza and had it delivered, so we may do the same thing again this year.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on August 10, 2004, 10:09:19 PM
Just FYI, the TBG Service Station in Fort Lupton no longer carries 100 octane..  Not that there are tons of people who hang out in Ft. Lupton   :P   Just letting ya know so you don't take a long lunch to go check em out, only to find out they no longer carry it ;)

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on August 10, 2004, 10:12:25 PM
Quote from: "Noob_Shum"
Just FYI, the TBG Service Station in Fort Lupton no longer carries 100 octane..  Not that there are tons of people who hang out in Ft. Lupton   :P   Just letting ya know so you don't take a long lunch to go check em out, only to find out they no longer carry it ;)

Jonathan


Jonathan,

Contact the guy that has TBG on his list and have him update it.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on August 12, 2004, 11:44:11 AM
Errrrrr, guess I have not had very much good luck lately, but the Winning Edge Performance gas station in Loveland has been sold, and from what the previous owner told me, the new owner does not plan on carrying the race gas  :cry:

I have talked to a couple people about the track day, both seem very interested, should I have them bring the money to the track that day ?  Or have them pay in advance also, both are trustworthy and will have no problem with the money situation..  Told them it would be around $100, but since there are already more than 20 people paid, that it would be slightly less than that.  Let me know what you want me to tell them, sounds like 1 of them is a for sure thing (weather permitting) and the other is very interested in trying his wife's new toy at the track.

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 12, 2004, 11:59:15 AM
Quote from: "Noob_Shum"
very interested in trying his wife's new toy at the track.


I hope it is the Viper he is talking about :lol:
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on August 12, 2004, 12:19:56 PM
Quote from: "kraut-sled"

I hope it is the Viper he is talking about :lol:


 8O  8O  :lol:  :lol:   Yes, the Viper!!   :oops:

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on August 12, 2004, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: "Noob_Shum"
Told them it would be around $100, but since there are already more than 20 people paid, that it would be slightly less than that.  Let me know what you want me to tell them, sounds like 1 of them is a for sure thing (weather permitting) and the other is very interested in trying his wife's new toy at the track.

Jonathan


for those that paid after the July 31st date, there will be no refund...it will be a flat $100 per driver.  One of the perks for those that made the early payment deadline....Early bird gets the worm, so to speak.

cheers
jon
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 12, 2004, 01:05:01 PM
I get to eart worms! - YAH!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 13, 2004, 07:28:43 AM
Quote from: "03Indigo"
Quote from: "Noob_Shum"
Told them it would be around $100, but since there are already more than 20 people paid, that it would be slightly less than that.  Let me know what you want me to tell them, sounds like 1 of them is a for sure thing (weather permitting) and the other is very interested in trying his wife's new toy at the track.

Jonathan


for those that paid after the July 31st date, there will be no refund...it will be a flat $100 per driver.  One of the perks for those that made the early payment deadline....Early bird gets the worm, so to speak.

cheers
jon


Yep this is true.  Since we had to pay the money up front, this is our way of thanking the people that got it in early for us to be able to do this.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on August 13, 2004, 07:31:00 AM
Quote from: "ColoradoB5"
Quote from: "03Indigo"
Quote from: "Noob_Shum"
Told them it would be around $100, but since there are already more than 20 people paid, that it would be slightly less than that.  Let me know what you want me to tell them, sounds like 1 of them is a for sure thing (weather permitting) and the other is very interested in trying his wife's new toy at the track.

Jonathan


for those that paid after the July 31st date, there will be no refund...it will be a flat $100 per driver.  One of the perks for those that made the early payment deadline....Early bird gets the worm, so to speak.

cheers
jon


Yep this is true.  Since we had to pay the money up front, this is our way of thanking the people that got it in early for us to be able to do this.


Cool, shouldn't really matter to these guys, if they really wanna go :)  Will let them know.

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: sediahaka on August 14, 2004, 02:10:13 PM
Petro stop...corner of parker and quincy...93.5 octane, it's the last pump by where the motorhomes have to go.  it's usually the same price as premium too.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on August 14, 2004, 02:10:17 PM
So what time is everyone planning on showin up ?  I know ya said all day (8 AM till 8 PM),  was curious because I plan on being there all if not most of the day  :P  and SCR website says they are open from 9 till 5 (normally).  Also have someone that is planning on stopping by after class, which is till ~4 PM.

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on August 14, 2004, 04:15:42 PM
I edited the original post to say 8:00 to 6:00.
I will be there about 7:45 or so.  There will be a few of us there around then.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: JDawg on August 15, 2004, 12:05:28 AM
Since I live in the area, I will be there around 7:45 as well.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on August 15, 2004, 09:05:19 AM
I am planning to arrive around 8:00
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 15, 2004, 01:30:13 PM
I will be there about 8:30 along with my friend and his STi.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: jayryan on August 15, 2004, 02:53:58 PM
Quote from: "boostedpassat22"
Petro stop...corner of parker and quincy...93.5 octane, it's the last pump by where the motorhomes have to go.  it's usually the same price as premium too.


I'm filling up there from now on.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on August 15, 2004, 02:54:43 PM
32 cars so far!!! This is going to be sweet! Tried replacing my TREs this past weekend and they were a no-go. Rusted on there good. Hopefully I can get them replaced and get an alignment before Friday or else it'll be an expensive day watching.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 16, 2004, 07:14:39 AM
Hey Andrew, I had the same problem.  I ended up using two vise-grips to start them going.  It was tough, but ended up working for me.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: SweetVW on August 16, 2004, 08:17:38 AM
Quote from: "ColoradoB5"
Hey Andrew, I had the same problem.  I ended up using two vise-grips to start them going.  It was tough, but ended up working for me.


Win,  I was helping him and he has a solid bead of rust the incircles the thread.  We both tried and could not budge it.  Outside of grinding away the rust, I cannot think of what else to do that would not cause damage to the any of the affected parts.  Speaking for myself, I was bummed!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on August 16, 2004, 09:06:33 AM
I have an appointment tomorrow morning with McDonald VW to fix my TREs. They'll try removing just the TREs by any means necessary. If they won't come off, they'll replace the entire tie rod assembly to the tune of $600!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: SweetVW on August 16, 2004, 09:21:59 AM
Quote from: "shummer"
I have an appointment tomorrow morning with McDonald VW to fix my TREs. They'll try removing just the TREs by any means necessary. If they won't come off, they'll replace the entire tie rod assembly to the tune of $600!


 8O   Oh my God!  I really hope it does not come to that.  I still think if the bead of rust can be ground down, they may be able to be taken off.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Rian_Colorado on August 16, 2004, 01:49:06 PM
Anyone have any details about Friday night? hasn't been much conversation about it (at least not in the forums) anyone need $$ for stuff? what should we bring?
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 16, 2004, 01:54:45 PM
I think Chas posted something somewhere on this, but he didn't get it into this forum.  Let me look for it...
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 16, 2004, 01:57:54 PM
Nope, I couldn't find anything on it, so Hopefully Chas will post something to get it going.  The plan is for a BBQ at his place after the track.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on August 16, 2004, 03:49:50 PM
I know you guys mentioned that you ordered pizza for lunch, but I was thinking of bringing my little charcoal grill to the track. Would they allow it? What do you guys think?
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: aowhaus on August 16, 2004, 06:40:02 PM
we could cook our food on our engine blocks!!!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Rian_Colorado on August 16, 2004, 07:23:44 PM
Good point on at the track food! I was thinking about just bringing some sandwhiches myself....

Rian
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Rusty on August 17, 2004, 11:25:55 AM
I'll go in on Pizza and sodas, I'm bringing enough stuff with me (canopy, chairs, tools, etc.) that I don't want to have to worry about food.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on August 17, 2004, 11:30:16 AM
I am in for Pizza as well
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on August 17, 2004, 11:32:59 AM
One more thing:

For all you Northwest-side-of-town folks - My friend Jim and I are going to meet up to drive to the track together.  Join us if you want to all drive over together.

we are meeting at the Starbucks at 80th and Wadsworth between 7:15 and 7:30 then will depart for 2nd creek.

I need that caffine fix before I drive.

I'll probably pick up one of those "traveler" buckets of coffee to take care of you other caffine adicts at the track.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 17, 2004, 11:50:50 AM
Are you going to put Toluene in your coffee as some have suggested?
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoMark on August 17, 2004, 11:54:32 AM
I'll chip in for pizza, diet Pepsi and after action brewski's
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 17, 2004, 11:55:43 AM
Andrew, are you brining Elmo this year?

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Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 17, 2004, 01:15:37 PM
I hope he does!  This year put him on the rack or on the front!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on August 17, 2004, 01:27:25 PM
Quote from: "kraut-sled"
Are you going to put Toluene in your coffee as some have suggested?


I'll skip the tolulene in the coffee, messes with my carbuerator.   :lol:

_____
Yes, Elmo is still in the car.  He now resides on the back of one of the front headrests as our daughter is old enough to be facing forward now.  Anyway,  I was going to take him out along with the car seat, but may leave him in just for fun.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 17, 2004, 01:33:12 PM
I think the Toluene boosted coffee will be an emissions hazard too. - LOL

I think all of us parents should keep our child seats in our cars when we go to the track Friday.  We can each have a different animal in the back as out co-pilots.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 34k on August 17, 2004, 03:57:35 PM
Quote from: "gragravar"
Quote from: "kraut-sled"
Are you going to put Toluene in your coffee as some have suggested?


I'll skip the tolulene in the coffee, messes with my carbuerator.   :lol:


I'd be more worried about your DownPipe and Exhaust!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on August 17, 2004, 04:10:03 PM
Quote from: "34k"
Quote from: "gragravar"
Quote from: "kraut-sled"
Are you going to put Toluene in your coffee as some have suggested?


I'll skip the tolulene in the coffee, messes with my carbuerator.   :lol:


I'd be more worried about your DownPipe and Exhaust!


I don't know, I think it would damage the Intake as bad as it would the Exhaust.
 :wow:
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 34k on August 17, 2004, 04:11:51 PM
Quote from: "gragravar"
Quote from: "34k"
Quote from: "gragravar"
Quote from: "kraut-sled"
Are you going to put Toluene in your coffee as some have suggested?


I'll skip the tolulene in the coffee, messes with my carbuerator.   :lol:


I'd be more worried about your DownPipe and Exhaust!


I don't know, I think it would damage the Intake as bad as it would the Exhaust.
 :wow:


Not to mention your internals  :cry:
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on August 18, 2004, 11:24:59 AM
I'm going to bring my little charcoal grill so feel free to bring some meat to grill if you want. Or you can mooch off my bro and I.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: jayryan on August 18, 2004, 01:19:14 PM
Hey guys...I'll probably try and stop by for a few during lunch.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 18, 2004, 01:54:12 PM
Shummer watch out!!  He is going to come eat all you food and then run like the French...

Ha JR!! Busted!!!!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: jayryan on August 18, 2004, 04:20:15 PM
NO! I meant MY lunch...not yours! Dweebus.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: velo on August 18, 2004, 04:33:13 PM
Weather forecast predicts scattered showers on Friday, so be prepared for that.  Hopefully it won't rain as heavy as it is right now.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on August 18, 2004, 04:39:17 PM
Quote from: "velo"
Weather forecast predicts scattered showers on Friday, so be prepared for that.  Hopefully it won't rain as heavy as it is right now.


but that is what quattro is for.  The allroad with all season tires would be awesome in these conditions! :P
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on August 18, 2004, 06:02:32 PM
Quote from: "gragravar"
One more thing:

For all you Northwest-side-of-town folks - My friend Jim and I are going to meet up to drive to the track together.  Join us if you want to all drive over together.

we are meeting at the Starbucks at 80th and Wadsworth between 7:15 and 7:30 then will depart for 2nd creek.

I need that caffine fix before I drive.

I'll probably pick up one of those "traveler" buckets of coffee to take care of you other caffine adicts at the track.


I'll see you there Andrew
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on August 18, 2004, 06:12:26 PM
Cool.  Looks like Jim decided that was out of the way, so we'll meet him at the track.  I'll keep my eye out for you.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on August 18, 2004, 08:24:20 PM
wanna just meet here since I am close to the highway?
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on August 18, 2004, 08:38:35 PM
I still need my coffee.

If no one else speaks up, I'll get the coffee then meet you at your place.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 03Indigo on August 19, 2004, 05:00:06 AM
cool...I'll be loaded up on Caffeine, since I got zero sleep last night trying to fix the suspension on the MINI.  Put it back to stock last night, then figured I had some more room on the coil overs, so adjusted those, then re-installed them, now they ar on, I have soem room, getting my oil changed this morning, then my new Paradas mounted after that...hopefully they will fit...if not, I am just gonna cry....

either way for tomorrow morning, does not matter to me.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: UberGrrl on August 19, 2004, 07:37:26 AM
Quote from: "gragravar"
One more thing:

For all you Northwest-side-of-town folks - My friend Jim and I are going to meet up to drive to the track together.  Join us if you want to all drive over together.

we are meeting at the Starbucks at 80th and Wadsworth between 7:15 and 7:30 then will depart for 2nd creek.


Tempting.. .however I think that's way more out of the way for me.. probably just easiest if I go down I-25 with a stop at my local Sbux before track day.

Is everyone planning to be at the track around 8am??
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on August 19, 2004, 07:40:24 AM
Quote from: "UberGrrl"
Is everyone planning to be at the track around 8am??


At least a few of us are.  We will have a drivers meeting around 8:15 or 8:30, so hopefully people will be there by then.  I especially hope any track virgins will be there by then.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: UberGrrl on August 19, 2004, 07:42:56 AM
Ok, that's what I was wondering about. I will try to be there for the driver's meeting since I haven't driven in a while. I can use the refresher.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 19, 2004, 07:43:02 AM
I am a virgin and I hope to be there for my de-flowering by 8:30 at the latest.

Although I did get to spend some time on a Psudo-track at the BWM Ultimate drive day AND in a parking lot with Alan - hehe.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoMark on August 19, 2004, 07:46:25 AM
Do you know if there are any cones that we can use? I think it helps, even experienced people, to put cones out to mark apexes and turn-in/track-out points. Or, with all the rain, we might want to mark some of the areas that you don't want to drop a wheel off.
Mark (praying for a dry day)
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on August 19, 2004, 07:50:30 AM
Good idea, Mark.  Bob will be setting out the cones for us.  I hadn't thought about the drop off issue.  Don't let me forget about that tomorrow.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on August 19, 2004, 08:21:07 AM
Anybody hitting up Duggan's Petroleum? They open at 7am, close at 5pm, and have 100 and 105 unleaded. My bro and I plan on going there before heading out. I might hit it tonight after work.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on August 19, 2004, 08:24:08 AM
I think Rusty and I will stop there on the way to the track.  We'll probably be there around 7:00 a.m.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Rusty on August 19, 2004, 09:56:14 AM
Quote from: "Denver Pat"
I think Rusty and I will stop there on the way to the track.  We'll probably be there around 7:00 a.m.

Oooo!  SWEET - I didn't think we would get the chance - I'm very pleased that they open that early.
Hmmph, I just bought 3 gals of Tolulene for nothing.
Hmmm?  105 octane AND Tolulene?  Hmmm...
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on August 19, 2004, 09:57:15 AM
Rusty must be REALLY excited about the high octane thing if he posted twice!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Rusty on August 19, 2004, 09:57:51 AM
Quote from: "Denver Pat"
Rusty must be REALLY excited about the high octane thing if he posted twice!

LOL!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 19, 2004, 09:58:34 AM
Rusty I am sure some one will be happy to buy it from you tomorrow.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 34k on August 19, 2004, 10:08:53 AM
Quote
Hmmm? 105 octane AND Tolulene? Hmmm...


I believe too much octane is a bad thing.
Slow burn rate == Loss of power
and higher engine temps i believe.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 19, 2004, 10:18:51 AM
it would make roughly 107 octane...

Maybe a little much...
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on August 19, 2004, 11:01:59 AM
Tolulene has an octane rating by itself of 114. That added to 105 gas seems like over kill, especially for Rusty's car which doesn't have any optimazation of the timing maps like the chipped cars do. And even in a chipped car it won't be needed. I do beleive that an increased octane rating for a car with a 91 octane chip still makes more power because there is less detonation going on and the ECU can advance the timing more that without the increased octane. Though some people doen't believe that is true, I have felt the difference on track days in the past.

Add a gallon of Tolulene to a 3/4 full tank of 91 octane gas and you'll have a better time at the track. The 105 race gas is also a great way to. Maybe a bit more expensive in the end.

Tolulene can be had at Kwal-Howel paint stores for about $9 a gallon. Nasty stuff though. Don't breath it or let it touch your skin.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on August 19, 2004, 11:04:48 AM
Quote from: "Chas"
Tolulene can be had at Kwal-Howel paint stores for about $9 a gallon. Nasty stuff though. Don't breath it or let it touch your skin.


....or your car's paint.  It's used sometimes as a paint thinner.
I've found 95 or 96 octane is about all my car can benefit from.  After that it's pointless.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Chas on August 19, 2004, 11:06:38 AM
Pat's right folks. And that's about what you'll get with the tolulene. Good stuff, but nasty!!!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on August 19, 2004, 11:07:53 AM
So, is this now the longest RMCB5.com thread ever?  well into 6 pages already.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: 34k on August 19, 2004, 11:16:22 AM
I bought a funnel and 1 gal. gas can to put the toluene in which worked great. Keep a rag over the tip of the spout til you get it in the filler and keep rag there underneath to make sure no drips escape.

Stuff is definately nasty. I did this mid-day with only a cuppa coffee in me and when the fumes hit me I got all goo-goo headed. So i guess the warning is... Don't Use on an Empty Stomach
:)
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on August 19, 2004, 11:19:18 AM
Some of us need an overall octane of 100+ for optimal performance!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Rusty on August 19, 2004, 02:00:33 PM
I'm on my way out the door - be there in about 6 hours!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 19, 2004, 02:38:49 PM
Quote from: "shummer"
Some of us need an overall octane of 100+ for optimal performance!


Hey no need to rub it in there Mr. 100 Octane chip man!
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 19, 2004, 03:35:13 PM
I am off to go huff  8O - I mean - buy some Toluene.  I too can attest to the performance it gives due to lower detonation.

This is my last post for the day, so I will see ya'll in the AM at the track.
Title: Second Creek Course Guide
Post by: snickryder on August 19, 2004, 05:09:03 PM
Hey, guys,

For those that have never been to Second Creek before, and even for those that have, I wrote up a Course Guide today.  I've been driving and racing at SCR for 4 years and have LOTS of laps there.  Just click on the link below and download it (Word doc).  

Second Creek Course Guide (http://www.snyder-motorsports.com/SCRGuide.doc)

I will have some copies at the track tomorrow for people, but if you want to print it off, that might help.  I'll go over some of what's in there for everyone and then if people want the detailed version, I can do that to.

I will be available all day for questions and instruction, in your car or mine (SVT Focus), so don't hesitate to ask.

See you tomorrow!
Rick S.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on August 19, 2004, 05:10:33 PM
8O
Very cool.  Thanks, Rick.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: jayryan on August 19, 2004, 05:30:08 PM
That's awesome...wish I could drive and learn a few things :(
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on August 19, 2004, 06:26:53 PM
Are the gears mentioned in the write-up for a 6-speed car? I ask just because I never get to 4th in my 5-speed. Or maybe that's because I'm doing something wrong.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: DenverPat on August 19, 2004, 07:31:09 PM
Yeah, it's borderline for me.  I could shift to 4th, but I would only get a couple more mph out of it.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: snickryder on August 19, 2004, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: "shummer"
Are the gears mentioned in the write-up for a 6-speed car? I ask just because I never get to 4th in my 5-speed. Or maybe that's because I'm doing something wrong.


The gears I mention are for a 5-speed and are based on driving this track in many different cars (A4, S4, 944, SRT4, Focus, etc).  95% of the cars will use these gears when you are pushing 10/10ths.  If you aren't getting the full drive off the corners, then you might not make it to 4th gear down the straights.  

But, don't worry so much about the gears, they are there for reference.  It's the line (turn-in, apex, track-out) that is really important.  But, if you have questions, don't hesitate to ask me tomorrow.

Rick
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: gragravar on August 19, 2004, 08:14:48 PM
A couple of things,

First: Thanks for the guidance Rick!  that is awesome info.

also: someone mentioned gas at Duggan's Petroleum.  Where is that at?
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: shummer on August 19, 2004, 09:20:52 PM
Duggan's is at Sante Fe and Union. West on Union maybe 200 ft. and north at the frontage road. You'll hit a stop sign and Duggan's is directly in front of you. Opens at 7am.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: UberGrrl on August 19, 2004, 11:35:45 PM
Damn, I wish I had seen the course guide earlier so I could have printed it out. Hopefully I can snag a copy at the track. Rick thanks for posting that, it is way cool!!! Definitely good info to have.

P.S. I will be at Duggan's too.  As much as I don't want to get up early.. I could find any race fuel to hit on the way to the track. :P
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: snickryder on August 20, 2004, 06:41:39 PM
Guys, thanks for letting me hang with you today.  I had a blast!!!!  I tried to get to everyone that needed help.  If I missed you, I'm sorry.  Hopefully, you got something out of it.  I know, I did.  I'm exhausted!!!!  :D

Thanks again,
Rick
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Noob_Shum on August 21, 2004, 08:51:58 AM
That was an awesome day!  I was beat by the end of it, but had a blast at the track.  Thank you EVERYONE who organized and helped organize this event.  Thanks Rick for showing me what my car could do  :oops:  8O   Was a fun ride!  Now to work on my driving skills  :P

Jonathan
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoMark on August 22, 2004, 04:20:03 PM
Wanted to thank everyone for letting the MINI's come out and play with you. It was a fun, well-run event.
Sorry I couldn't play or teach more. Kinda got caught up in fixing my broken wheel studs so i could get home!
Hope to see everyone again soon. We should try and get together out there some evening before SCR closes for good.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoB5 on August 23, 2004, 06:17:05 AM
Thanks to Pat for setting everything up and more importantly, taking care of the financial arrangements.  Thanks to Rick, Randy and Mark for driver instruction.  I could definitely tell the difference from the stands on who had and hadn't had some guidance.  It made a big difference and I know everyone appreciated it.

Mark, did you get everything fixed up?
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: UberGrrl on August 23, 2004, 07:36:38 AM
Ditto. I had a blast, thanks Pat for organizing all of it. Friday was definitely  my favorite day ;) I can't wait to go to the track again.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: kraut-sled on August 23, 2004, 07:53:10 AM
So when is the next one??

I had a blast - Hats off to Pat for putting this together.

Now I need some new tires ;-)
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: jayryan on August 23, 2004, 08:16:05 AM
I believe Pat is going to work on something down in Pueblo in the next couple months. I'm definately on that action.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: ColoradoMark on August 23, 2004, 09:44:25 AM
Quote from: "ColoradoB5"
Thanks to Pat for setting everything up and more importantly, taking care of the financial arrangements.  Thanks to Rick, Randy and Mark for driver instruction.  I could definitely tell the difference from the stands on who had and hadn't had some guidance.  It made a big difference and I know everyone appreciated it.

Mark, did you get everything fixed up?


Well, I got the broken studs out, one at the track and the other Sauturday morning when I had more tools to work with. I didn't have new studs to replace the broken ones with; my LF tire is now wearing lug nuts instead.

Good lesson to be learned: If your wheel takes an impact replace all the studs/lugnuts with new ones.
For those that didn't know I had spun my car last June during the SCCA's Solo Trials. It was during qualifying, my tires were cold, the car oversteered in the esses at the end of the back straight (running CCW), I thought I had caught it but the car hit a bump and snapped around. I went off at over 80 mph into the tire wall going sideways/backwards. That wheel took enough of a hit that it broke the bead on the tire. The wheel was undamaged but it must have stressed the wheel studs enough to create some microscopic fractures. One broke the next day, then two more last Friday. I'll be replacing all of the ones on that side of the car.
Title: National GTG Track Day - Friday August 20th
Post by: Rusty on September 03, 2004, 12:28:41 PM
Whew!

I made it home, and to Tennessee, and to Massachusetts, and then back home, w/o the CV boot leaking a drop.  I think the grease just got so hot (thin) on the track that it seeped through micro-cracks in the boot that it normally is to too thick to seep through.

I had a GREAT time!  So sorry I didn't make the rest of the GTG.  Thanks Pat, and Rick, and Everybody!

Take Care everyone - see you again soon, probably at Pueblo if it happens.