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Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: JDawg on November 29, 2004, 12:11:30 PM
Over the holiday, I drove the W8 up to my grandparents for Thanksgiving.  They live in Topeka, Kansas at an altitude of 632 feet, according to my altimeter.  As soon as I started driving around town, I realized that there was a significant power difference in my car.  Lucky for me, I had my G-Meter with me, and decided to take a few runs.

I found a perfectly flat, uninhabited stretch of road (there are many in that area) and got everything setup.  I had half a tank of fuel, and the car had nothing else in it, except me (162 lbs.)  Because VW is replacing my tranny, I decided that I would be as hard on it as I needed to be, in order to have a few good launches.  After turning off the ESP, I took my first run, dropping the clutch at about 2500 RPM. After significant tire spin, I was off, and it felt great... the result 6.35 seconds to 60 and a 14.30 quarter mile at 95 MPH

I was not satisfied, and ran a few more runs.  The last three were almost exactly the same, 0-60 in 5.70 and a 13.95 quarter mile at 97.8 MPH!  I was blown away, it felt so amazing and I wanted to find some other car like a C5 corvette to have fun with!  So, how accurate is the G-Meter?  Well I ran the unit while doing a couple real quarter miles in New Mexico, and it was within .08 seconds of being dead on, on the negative side.  So, I feel pretty confident that the W8 is a 5.70 - 5.80 second car, depending on conditions.  It was 62 degrees, and the pressure was 30.43 which are pretty close to SAE standards.  Wow, I love my car.  It is too bad that it is such a dog up here in Colorado!

Fun stuff! :)
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Noob_Shum on November 29, 2004, 12:59:32 PM
Damn Jason, that is MOVING!!  You must have gotten that launch thing down, I am THE SUCK at it   :oops:  :lol:

Jonathan
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: gragravar on November 29, 2004, 04:37:34 PM
wow, that is quick.  guess those 2 extra cylinders are good for something.     :wink:

it is amazing what a difference the altitude makes.  I think I'll stick with the turbo up here.
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: JDawg on November 29, 2004, 04:41:47 PM
Yeah, turbos create a significant disproportionate advantage at altitude, dang forced induction :)
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Cole on November 29, 2004, 06:58:37 PM
Turbos help, but they are still faster at sea level too.


I would kinda like to run next to that W8 just for a comparison and see how I do.  :D
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: DenverPat on November 29, 2004, 07:15:37 PM
There's not a significant difference in speed between your two cars.  Pretty much a toss up.
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Noob_Shum on November 29, 2004, 07:18:19 PM
His W8 moves very well for a tank :)  My butt dyno tells me it is close to a stock S4, and the numbers he gave above are very close to what a stock S4 does (I believe).... and with a lot more room on the inside!

Jonathan
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: DenverPat on November 29, 2004, 07:20:20 PM
I thought your cars were about the same on the way to ABQ.  Not so?
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Noob_Shum on November 29, 2004, 07:35:52 PM
Yes, very similar...  Only time I pulled hard on him was when we were playing around and I actually downshifted to the "right" gear (I think it was 4th, when we were doing about 80)...  At the track, I think I only beat him by like 2 tenths of a second in the quarter...  I have an APR chip, but my drag techniques are not exactly stellar...   :lol:  :oops:

Jonathan
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Cole on November 29, 2004, 07:50:03 PM
I would be curious still.

I do run GIAC X-chip, Brullen exhaust, Forge BPVs, K&N Filter and some other stuff that looks cool that might give me style speed. :wink:
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Noob_Shum on November 29, 2004, 07:50:24 PM
Oh, the S4 is back to stock for the time being...  ASW took the APR chip out for me, and installed a "stock" T chip for me this AM.  The CEL is gone now, but not sure if the code was cleared or not (I did not ask them to clear it, but when I got it back, the CEL was off).  Might look into GIAC or a Sportec chip after this ECU issue is resolved.

Jonathan
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Noob_Shum on November 29, 2004, 07:52:13 PM
Quote from: "Cole"
I would be curious still.

I do run GIAC X-chip, Brullen exhaust, Forge BPVs, K&N Filter and some other stuff that looks cool that might give me style speed. :wink:


With the GIAC chip, exhaust, and a drop in filter, you should be faster..  I have heard good things about the GIAC software, never driven one though.

Jonathan
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Cole on November 29, 2004, 07:53:30 PM
Your welcome to hop in and take a ride!
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Noob_Shum on November 29, 2004, 07:56:53 PM
Quote from: "Cole"
Your welcome to hop in and take a ride!


That would be cool, would love a ride next GTG or something :)

Jonathan
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: JDawg on November 30, 2004, 12:03:55 AM
Jonathan, good to hear about your chip.  If you need my vag, I would be glad to hook it up for you.

Here is my math on the S4 vs W8

 Audi S4/Passat W8/Difference  
HP
250 /270/ 20  
Torque
258 /275 /17  
Weight
3593 /3850 /257  
lbs/HP
14.372 /14.2593 /100.8% HP
lbs/ft lbs
13.92636 /14.0000 /99.5% Torque
 (Lower numbers are better)  

So, a stock S4 should be almost exactly the same (at sea level) as a W8 assuming the torque curves are similar, which they are.

Interesting.
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Cole on November 30, 2004, 08:51:44 AM
Quote from: "JDawg"

Ask and ye shall receive!
(OEM Navigation system) .



Okay, I'll ask!

Can I have an OEM Navigation system? :D  :wink:
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: JDawg on November 30, 2004, 10:34:28 AM
I will help you put one in, and can help you find one to purchase!
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Cole on November 30, 2004, 01:27:14 PM
Know any place to find a deal on one?
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: ColoradoB5 on November 30, 2004, 03:17:12 PM
That's pretty sweet Jason.  So when are you going to get a supercharger or turbo on that thing?  You know you want to be the first one.
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: JDawg on November 30, 2004, 10:30:47 PM
You know I have thought about it... but a 10.5:1 compression ratio is a problem...
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: gragravar on November 30, 2004, 10:46:26 PM
Quote from: "JDawg"
You know I have thought about it... but a 10.5:1 compression ratio is a problem...


not if you change out all the internals.  LOL!   :lol:
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: JDawg on December 01, 2004, 01:37:07 AM
For what I would spend on that, I could purchase a faster used M3
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: scott on December 01, 2004, 06:55:03 AM
call Avalon for the Nav stuff... or just pick up a $5.00 atlas at Wal-Mart and train your wife/ girlfriend/ dog how to read the phucker!
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: ColoradoB5 on December 01, 2004, 07:41:39 AM
Quote from: "JDawg"
You know I have thought about it... but a 10.5:1 compression ratio is a problem...


Just lower the compression with a new headgasket.  Of course, this would probably be part of a kit for this anyway, the problem is that no one has done it before.  But THAT would be one hell of an engine.
Title: The W8 is faster than I thought...
Post by: Cole on December 01, 2004, 09:52:47 AM
Quote from: "scott"
call Avalon for the Nav stuff... or just pick up a $5.00 atlas at Wal-Mart and train your wife/ girlfriend/ dog how to read the phucker!



I already have a GPS unit that I use all the time hiking and in the Jeep.

The Nav-Plus is more of a "toy" than anything practicle for me. nav funtions would be cool, TV, DVD etc.