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Title: Bought myself another peoples porsche.
Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 24, 2005, 01:44:26 PM
I take delivery tomarow :D  :D

its a 66'
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Post by: Spicoli on August 24, 2005, 01:54:33 PM
Another?  How many do you have?
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 24, 2005, 02:41:50 PM
this will make two.
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 24, 2005, 02:47:09 PM
peoples porsche's, not real porsche's :lol:
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Post by: gragravar on August 24, 2005, 02:51:46 PM
Quote from: "blueGOLFturbo"
peoples porsche's, not real porsche's :lol:


and for a second, I thought you had talked Andrew (34K) out of his 912.
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Post by: 03Indigo on August 24, 2005, 02:52:37 PM
ttiwwop
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 24, 2005, 02:59:28 PM
Quote from: "03Indigo"
ttiwwop


Huh?
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Post by: gragravar on August 24, 2005, 03:12:28 PM
Quote from: "blueGOLFturbo"
Quote from: "03Indigo"
ttiwwop


Huh?


(http://edition719.com/images/smiles/postpics.gif)
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Post by: Spicoli on August 24, 2005, 03:19:10 PM
Quote from: "blueGOLFturbo"
peoples porsche's, not real porsche's :lol:


I am confused now...
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 24, 2005, 03:21:29 PM
Like i said I dont take delivery untill tomarow but here is a little sneek peak. Ill post more detailed photos tomarow.
(http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/868029.jpg)
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Post by: 03Indigo on August 24, 2005, 03:26:01 PM
holy monster garage reject batman :lol:   Looks like a fun project.
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 24, 2005, 03:27:08 PM
Baja baby 8)
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Post by: 03Indigo on August 24, 2005, 03:28:45 PM
cool
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Post by: gragravar on August 24, 2005, 03:36:18 PM
that'll be a fun project!
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Post by: BHase on August 24, 2005, 03:45:08 PM
What engine goes into that thing? It'd be kinda cool if you could get something like a 1.9TDI to fit in there, but it doesn't look like it...(if y'all hadn't noticed by now, I've kinda gotten into the whole diesel tuning thing)

Ben
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 24, 2005, 03:49:01 PM
the engine is air cooled so any thing like that would be a ton of fab work. but totally rad like you say. their is no motor right now, the stocker is 1600cc but you can get engine packages that run up to 26xx cc's probly more.

Greg
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Post by: gragravar on August 24, 2005, 04:02:07 PM
with an old bug, a boxer style engine is important too, so if one were to "upgrade" the motor, typical options are for 60's and 70's. aircooled p-car motors.  if making the switch to water cooled, then later p-car motors are possible, and as much as I hate to admit it, the WRX engine makes for a nice conversion.   8O
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Post by: BHase on August 24, 2005, 04:04:00 PM
You can get put the WRX 2.0t into a bug?  Crazy! Can you put in the STi 2.5? Greg did say it can fit up to 26xx cc engines...

Ben
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 24, 2005, 04:15:17 PM
Quote from: "BHase"
You can get put the WRX 2.0t into a bug?  Crazy! Can you put in the STi 2.5? Greg did say it can fit up to 26xx cc engines...

Ben


I was talking about 2600 cc aircooled motor just like the 1600 but bored a 1000cc :twisted:
The motor that im planing on building is closer to 2000cc's for relibility.

I found a site on line that sells turn key suby engine's for like 6-8G's @ 300 hp. for refrense the stock 1600 has about 60hp :D
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Post by: gragravar on August 24, 2005, 04:20:09 PM
Quote from: "BHase"
You can get put the WRX 2.0t into a bug?  Crazy! Can you put in the STi 2.5? Greg did say it can fit up to 26xx cc engines...

Ben


yep EJ20T and EJ22T conversions are pretty popular not many doing the 2.5 yet.

see more here (also the site above the linked forum might be a help to blueGolf as he dives into this project).

http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewforum.php?f=19 (http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewforum.php?f=19)
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Post by: BHase on August 24, 2005, 04:33:15 PM
Well, this should be cool. What color is it going to be, do you know?

Ben
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 24, 2005, 05:32:11 PM
Thanks for the link :!:
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Post by: 03Indigo on August 24, 2005, 05:33:22 PM
I know they have but the wrx motors in the micro busses.  those things haul...but difficult to get air ducted into the intercooler.  The ej25t is not that much bigger than the ej20t....mainly the heads are bigger and stick out more...I bet it could fit.

Now that would be a monster...a 300hp turbo baja bug.  and mount the intercooler on the roof like others have done :)
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 24, 2005, 05:35:00 PM
Quote from: "BHase"
Well, this should be cool. What color is it going to be, do you know?

Ben


Hahaha! Im glad you asked because I cant decide weather I should rattle can it Balck or OD Green? Opinions?

If you havent allready guessed this isant going to be a show winner. :roll:  but more of a dumping out off road, pulling the Ebrake, doing doughnuts kinda car :D
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Post by: gragravar on August 25, 2005, 06:55:14 AM
Quote from: "blueGOLFturbo"
Thanks for the link :!:


No problem, looks like a pretty cool site.  Wish I had had it when I was working on my ex-gf's bug back in college.   :roll:

Oh, and I'd vote for the OD green.
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Post by: jfrahm on August 25, 2005, 08:19:55 AM
Probably sold alread, but:

http://denver.craigslist.org/car/92937095.html
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Post by: 34k on August 25, 2005, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: "blueGOLFturbo"
peoples porsche's, not real porsche's :lol:


Okay, so here's where the Porsche geek steps in and says his bit. The original Porsche to be commonly called the People's Porsche or "Volksporsche" was the 914. At one point, someone in the press dubbed it the "Vo-Po", though aparently Porsche marketing people took exception to that name and suposedly begged the euorpean press not to use it.

This name was in part due to the fact the development of the 914 was a joint venture between Porsche and Volkswagen. Volkswagen to fill the gap left by the departing Karmann Ghia and Porsche to be the successor to my car, the 912. Early 914 examples in europe carried both the VW logo and the Porsche logo.

The plan was that VW would build the shells (at the Karmann factory I believe) and develop a 4 cylinder version and Porsche would buy the shells and develop their 6 cylinder version called the 914/6 based on the early 911 two-liter engine. The story goes that VW charged so much more for the shells than Porsche had anticipated that the price of a 914/6 was biting on the heels of the 911 where as the 914/4, while it cost quite a bit more than the departing Ghia, was still 1/3 less than the 914/6. The whole thing was a disaster for Porsche. What saved the car to some degree was its popularity here in the States. Porsche ceased production of the 914/6 and introduced the 924 as its entry level vehicle. The 924's history is interesting as well since it actually started as a Porsche project for VW and was assembled at an Audi factory.

Since the 914, the most affordable Porsche has typically been called the People's Porsche including the 924 and especially the 944. This has even to some degree retro-activly been applied to the 912, though its origins are plainly the earlier 914.

Quote from: "gragravar"
for a second, I thought you had talked Andrew (34K) out of his 912.
*SIGH* I'm taking offers now Andrew *sniff*

Holy crap, i'm sorry about the totally nit-picky WAY off topic reply. Please, get back to your thread while i go sit someplace away from a keyboard as punishment.



TIGHT project Greg. I wanna go for a ride in a 300hp bug!
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Post by: ianacole on August 25, 2005, 09:41:16 AM
Quote from: "34k"
Quote from: "gragravar"
for a second, I thought you had talked Andrew (34K) out of his 912.


 *SIGH* I'm taking offers now Andrew *sniff*


I'll offer you my truck and my second born :lol:
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Post by: gragravar on August 25, 2005, 09:49:15 AM
Quote from: "34k"
Quote from: "gragravar"
for a second, I thought you had talked Andrew (34K) out of his 912.
*SIGH* I'm taking offers now Andrew *sniff*


you are killing me.  between you and Mark Fank over on audiworld who is selling his '03 boxter S.  grrrr.  why do I have to buy another $4000 of rock for my yard this weekend.  maybe it is the landscaping that is killing me.
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Post by: 34k on August 25, 2005, 09:58:05 AM
It's killing me too, I'm damn near going to give it away if the home is right.
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Post by: ianacole on August 25, 2005, 10:05:11 AM
Quote from: "34k"
It's killing me too, I'm damn near going to give it away if the home is right.


Ooh, ooh, pick me, pick me!!  <where's that darned raising hand, jumping up and down emoticon?>
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Post by: 34k on August 25, 2005, 10:16:20 AM
It's just so hard to find a good home.
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Post by: ianacole on August 25, 2005, 10:23:51 AM
It's a good home...I would love it, and pet it, and call it "George"  :lol:
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Post by: gragravar on August 25, 2005, 10:25:07 AM
Quote from: "34k"
It's killing me too, I'm damn near going to give it away if the home is right.


 :cry: sure, just twist that knife.   :cry:
send me the details (again).  it is almost mid-year bonus time.  Think Stacie will notice a 912 hiding in the garage?  yes, she would.  guess I need to seek approval first.

hmmm.  at least the 912 is less expensive than the boxter S.  :wink:
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Post by: gragravar on August 25, 2005, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: "ianacole"
It's a good home...I would love it, and pet it, and call it "George"  :lol:


that, or save me some cash and let bugs, oops I mean Ian, buy it.
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Post by: 34k on August 25, 2005, 10:29:10 AM
Jay's gonna come smack me down and I will have killed Greg's thread if I post it here. How about I go post it in the FS section :)
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Post by: gragravar on August 25, 2005, 10:31:41 AM
Quote from: "34k"
Jay's gonna come smack me down and I will have killed Greg's thread if I post it here. How about I go post it in the FS section :)


good idea.  now back to the soon to be OD green monster bug.   :mrgreen:
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Post by: TurboDub on August 25, 2005, 10:50:30 AM
As for that 66 bug...400 - 500HP would be perfect don't you think!?  8O  :lol:

http://www.outbackmotors.com/400hp_setup.htm

(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/6901/2511rk.th.jpg) (http://img391.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2511rk.jpg)
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Post by: ianacole on August 25, 2005, 10:58:34 AM
$13-16K 8O Love the lack of muffler...that thing must be loud as all get out!

Quote from: "Their Website"
For drivers using motors in the 400HP range it's recommended that you have at least 1 season of driving experience in the dunes driving a car with 300HP or less before using something as powerful as our 400-450HP package.  400HP can be a handful to drive, especially for the newbie driver in the dunes. It's very important to get some experience under your belt before you buy something this powerful.


Insane!!
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Post by: TurboDub on August 25, 2005, 11:00:42 AM
I'm trying t figure a way to get that BOV to fit underneath my hood :twisted:  :lol:
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 25, 2005, 11:08:50 AM
Quote from: "gragravar"
good idea.  now back to the soon to be OD green monster bug.   :mrgreen:


Ive been walking around with the most rediculous grin on my face all morning..
Here are some more of the sellers photos to tide you all over,

(http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/868031.jpg)
(http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/868028.jpg)

Holy wicked camber batman!!
(http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/868032.jpg)
(http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/868033.jpg)

YAY!!! :mrgreen:
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Post by: BHase on August 25, 2005, 11:48:22 AM
Man, that's a project!

I also vote for the OD Green, without knowing what OD stands for. I'd vote for any green.

Ben
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 25, 2005, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: "BHase"
Man, that's a project!

I also vote for the OD Green, without knowing what OD stands for. I'd vote for any green.

Ben


This bag is OD green.

(http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/product_images/1277/WIN-155.jpg)

They use it alot for military jeeps and what not.
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Post by: ianacole on August 25, 2005, 12:02:18 PM
Olive drab.
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Post by: BHase on August 25, 2005, 12:06:38 PM
I see. In that case, I give it my wholehearted "yes" vote.

Ben
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Post by: ianacole on August 25, 2005, 12:17:37 PM
I vote for rattle-can urban camo...
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 25, 2005, 12:29:40 PM
Quote from: "ianacole"
I vote for rattle-can urban camo...


That may be a little much for me. But OD green I can do.  :)
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Post by: gragravar on August 25, 2005, 12:39:55 PM
this looks like a HUGE project.  You seem to be missing some critical components, engine, rear springs, seats, instrumentation.  Oh well, at least you will get some moral support from the folks here.   :D

I think we are going to need some in-progress pics as you go.  :!:
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 25, 2005, 12:59:12 PM
Ya its missing some stuff but I paid less than 500 bucks for this mess 8) It has a fiberglass hood thats not showen, and all the glass is inside the car with the fenders and what not.
NO rust and a clear colorado title.

Here is a link to my buildup thread on the samba.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130552
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Post by: coloradobrad on August 29, 2005, 12:41:35 PM
I was thinking of building a baja... I wonder if I can build a reliable turbo-charged AC 2000cc or bolt on a centrifugal with blow thru carbs.
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 29, 2005, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: "coloradobrad"
I was thinking of building a baja... I wonder if I can build a reliable turbo-charged AC 2000cc or bolt on a centrifugal with blow thru carbs.


You could definately build one but im not sure the word reliable would be involved. :lol:

Spent most of the weekend scrapeing the tub, and geting the old interior bits out. Sucked about 2lbs of dirt out of it with the shop vac.
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Post by: Scuba2001 on August 29, 2005, 02:38:15 PM
Thats a huge project there man.  If anyone can do it, its you.

2lbs of dirt?  Thats weight reduction right there.  Now you're getting somewhere.   :lol:
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on August 29, 2005, 09:27:52 PM
Quote from: "Scuba2001"
Thats a huge project there man.  If anyone can do it, its you.

2lbs of dirt?  Thats weight reduction right there.  Now you're getting somewhere.   :lol:


Thanks for the encouragement Ill need it. Ill post some photos tomarow so yall will have something to look at while your workin.. :D


Greg
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on September 01, 2005, 01:39:40 PM
My arms feel like Jello from scrapeing and grinding, but progress is being made.

Got most of the bondo off the dash, I think im going to clear coat the bare metal and roll with it.

Still have some work to do around the glove box and ashtray area but its comeing along.
(http://www.rmcb5.com/albums/album97/DSCF0060.jpg)
(http://www.rmcb5.com/albums/album97/DSCF0061.jpg)
(http://www.rmcb5.com/albums/album97/DSCF0062.jpg)

Got most of the tar like sound deadning out of the tub as well.
Not sure if thats the stock location for the headlight high low switch, its really weird to get to.

(http://www.rmcb5.com/albums/album97/DSCF0063.jpg)

Greg
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Post by: BHase on September 01, 2005, 01:56:36 PM
Looks like when my dad was restored a Citroen 2CV back in the early 1990s.  Lots of grinding, lots of welding, and a lot of new parts, but none of them particularly expensive to procure.

What are you going to put into the interior? Stock, authentic material, or more customized stuff? We've talked some about the exterior and the engine, now on to the stuff that is visible most to you. :)

Ben
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Post by: ianacole on September 01, 2005, 01:59:34 PM
If you need some "non-vital component" welding done and willing to let an amatuer hone his skill, let me know.
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on September 01, 2005, 02:08:24 PM
Im going to do some more sanding on the dash, polish it up nice and clear coat it good. I really like the raw metal look. The only stock interior items that will be returning are door cards and rear quarters. The tub is going to be stripped to bare metal with navil jelly and coated with roll on bed liner.

Roll cage, some bucket seats (im on the hunt for some starion seats) and flat black rattle can the headliner area and all the parts that dont get roll on bed liner.

Thats it for the inside... pretty much. some vdo guages
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on September 01, 2005, 02:12:44 PM
Quote from: "ianacole"
If you need some "non-vital component" welding done and willing to let an amatuer hone his skill, let me know.


Ill definatly let you know! I have tons of little screw holes in the tub, that could use to be spoted and ground smooth.
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Post by: BHase on September 01, 2005, 02:45:33 PM
I was going to recommend a Defi VSD Concept with the controller, through which you can monitor most vital car system with use of a digital HUD, but then it might not fit with the look of the interior of your car.  I'm assuming you'll be working on the interior first.

Ben
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on September 01, 2005, 11:16:42 PM
Quote from: "BHase"
I'm assuming you'll be working on the interior first.

Ben


Ya ill get the interior preped and start hunting down a roll cage and some seats, once those are welded in I can coat the tub. Ill paint the rest of the interior and finish the dash while I wait on the cage and seats. My list is around 2 pages now :roll:  LOL what fun.

 :D Greg
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Post by: 92UrS4 on September 02, 2005, 08:50:31 AM
Greg, I have had some good luck with Bondo brand spray on sound deadener. It is realy durable and you can paint right over it. I sanded down the HUGE transmission cover in the tub of the scout and sprayed this stuff on then painted it and it turned out really good. It comes in black and without painting it just looks like a dull flat black. Might be good to use on the headliner and then paint over. You could also use it on the tub as it is advertized to be durable enough to use as a bedliner.

Plus one can seems to go a long way. Also, it can be cheaper than the bedliners. When you do the roll on stull it is usually really really rough, like rought enough to take the skin off if you tried sliding across it.
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Post by: Colorado_Baja on September 02, 2005, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: "gietl"
Greg, I have had some good luck with Bondo brand spray on sound deadener. It is realy durable and you can paint right over it. I sanded down the HUGE transmission cover in the tub of the scout and sprayed this stuff on then painted it and it turned out really good. It comes in black and without painting it just looks like a dull flat black. Might be good to use on the headliner and then paint over. You could also use it on the tub as it is advertized to be durable enough to use as a bedliner.

Plus one can seems to go a long way. Also, it can be cheaper than the bedliners. When you do the roll on stull it is usually really really rough, like rought enough to take the skin off if you tried sliding across it.


Thanks for the info Jay, ill definaty check that stuff out. Sounds like it would be perfect for the headliner and rest of the tub, plus keep the rattles down to a minimum.

Can you get it localy? like home depot?