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Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 05, 2004, 02:48:47 PM
:cry: Last night I go down stairs to the garage to get a CD out of my Golf. (I park in a coverd parking garage for my apartment building) and my car is gone.
So at this point I feel like im haveing a heart attack I couldent belive that its gone. I go back up stairs to call CSPD and when I get them on the phone to report it stolen, the officer on the other end says that I cant report it stolen because its been REPOED!!! WTF!  :x  Their is no loan on the Golf so how can it be repoed I told him. He says that he dosent know it was reported to them as being repoed an hour and a half before. So I ask him what company repoed it so I can contact them and get my car back. He wont tell me he says that I need to call the bank and they will tell me.  At this point I lost it, [me yelling at the cop>] THIEIR IS NO BANK FOR ME TO CALL, I DONT HAVE A LOAN ON THAT CAR!!!! So he gets me to calm down and finally tells me who took my car.

I call the company this morning and they say that they had orders to repo it from such and such a bank and tough luck. So the arguement starts all over again, after about an hour of heated discussion the guy agrees to relese the car to me if I produce the title. I say ok what ever put the car back on the truck and bring it back and ill have the title in my hand when you get here.  He says no, bring the title down here and ill relese the car. So I lost it again. WTF I said how am I susposto get down their you have my damn car!  He finaly agrees to bring the car back to my apartment.

Im still waiting on them to get here and im praying that they dident tap the door locks or pull the ignition.

Ill update as soon as I get the car back.
Im still really pissed off about this whole thing... Damn repo men :evil:
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 92UrS4 on April 05, 2004, 02:54:09 PM
8O  OMFG Greg, please keep us posted.  If i could right now I'd give you a beer and a shot of whiskey.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 03Indigo on April 05, 2004, 02:54:52 PM
Law suit for illegal repo?  They owe you money for your inconvenience at the least.  Stick it to them, they would have stuck it to you if the ball was in their court.

Sorry to hear about this, keep us up to date.

cheers
jon
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 92UrS4 on April 05, 2004, 02:57:21 PM
Oh yeah, make sure you read closelt anything they may have you sign, it may be worth not getting the car back right away if there are dislaimers about not being liable for damage and things like that.

Sounds like whomever asked to have it repoed needs to be bitch slapped Richard Simmons style.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 05, 2004, 03:01:15 PM
Thanks for the support guys, my lawyer will be here in 5 min so when those punks get my car back up here he can scare the S#!t out of them.

As far as im concerned this crap is way unacceptable.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 03Indigo on April 05, 2004, 03:09:05 PM
Quote from: "gietl"

Sounds like whomever asked to have it repoed needs to be bitch slapped Richard Simmons style.


Heck yeah, slap it to 'em.  And like Jay said, read everything closely, very closely...don't sign anything, just get your car, they have no right to hold it, and they are FULLY LIABLE for everything that happened, even if it was a mistake, they have to take responsibility for it, PERIOD.  If I screwed up like that in my job, I would completely lose my right to practice, and most likely be in Jail...they can be held to the same standards.

Put that Lawyer all over their arse.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 05, 2004, 03:30:59 PM
ARRRGGGG.... The nightmare continues, they get here with my car up on the flat bed and I tell the guy to let me up so I can inspect the car, he says no  with a nice smart ass tone in his voice. So Mr. Banks (my lawyer) chimes in, than take the car down he has the title. The driver says let me see the title, so I hand it to him and he looks at it for a minuate front and back and then says that my title looks fake. WTF! So im done dealing with this ass, I grab the title and my lawyer advises me to call the cops so thats what were waiting on now, When Mr. Banks says call the cops the guy hops in the cab and takes off with my car.

Even after argueing on the phone with the guy at the repo office if they had returned my car unharmed and in a timely manner I would have let it go but not now, they will pay, bastards.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 92UrS4 on April 05, 2004, 03:44:13 PM
I can't believe this Greg, it is definitley a scam, I guarantee if the lawyer wasn't there he would next say, give me $500 and I'll give you the car.

I am just dumbfounded by this, I cannot believe this has occured.  Get the po po involved and get it cleared up in your favor.  Sounds like a need for a settlement of timelost, lawyer fees, and a meticulous inspection of the car by a mechanic and bodyshop, do not release any liability until you know for sure the car is in the exact condition it was before they swiped it.

i'm sure Mr Banks will steer you in the absolute right direction, I just hate seeing someone go through something like this, it;s just horrible.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: kraut-sled on April 05, 2004, 03:58:45 PM
I am getting pissed off just reading this shite!!!

I think the above advice is right on the money.  DO not release anyone of anything.  I would also findout who called to have the car REPO'ed to begin with.

The nice thing about a lawsuit is you can name any and all parites involved.

In my old days we would deal out some red-neck justice to these @#*%$(@!*#^%_(*@!#^%(*#@!^%(!&#^%_(^!#
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: velo on April 05, 2004, 04:01:17 PM
Holy crap, that is unbelievable.  8O  Best of luck getting this sorted out and hopefully your car hasn't been damaged.

(Jay, I noticed that the capitol B in the previous sentence was automatically changed to lower case.  Too funny! ;) )
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 05, 2004, 04:16:24 PM
CSPD pulled up a second ago and I told whole story to him from the begining and he said that im totally right and he inspected my title and said that it looked fine to him. So being the nice guy that he is he is going to give me and Mr. Banks a lift down thier to get my s#!t back. im going to go over the car with a fine tooth comb before I take it back and I will sign nothing.
My lawyer has allready called his office to have the lawsuit papers drawn up.

Quote from: "gietl"
I can't believe this Greg, it is definitley a scam, I guarantee if the lawyer wasn't there he would next say, give me $500 and I'll give you the car.



I think your right Jay, im glad that I had sense enough to call my lawyer to be here, if he wasent here when that guy said that my title was fake I probly would have theratend to beat the hell out of that guy, Kraut-sled red-neck justice style.

Gotta run they are waiting on me...
Ill update as soon as I get back.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: velo on April 05, 2004, 04:27:42 PM
Thinking about this some more and about how they got it on/off the flatbed.  They might have used a slim jim to unlock the door so they could release the parking brake and put tranny in neutral.  But that would have set off alarm (which they would probably want to avoid).  So they might have just used a winch to pull the car onto the flatbed with the tires not turning (assuming parking brake in use and/or tranny in gear).

Hopefully they did no damage, but you should probably get the rear brakes, tranny and both bumpers (where they probably hooked up the winch) checked out thoroughly.  Not to mention checking your tires for a flat spot! :P  Then have them (or the dumb-ass bank who ordered the repo) charged with auto theft! :evil:

Oh, and thanks for keeping the cop and your lawyer waiting while you gave us an update.  :-P
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 92UrS4 on April 05, 2004, 05:42:12 PM
Or if they have a VIN they can get a key from VW for about $200, so they could have a key and just unlocked it and started it and lined it up.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Eric18T on April 05, 2004, 06:15:00 PM
this is cazy shit... Maybe it is time to f some people up.. i has been a long week so far and it is only monday, I am game to help if you want to f someone up!
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: DenverPat on April 05, 2004, 06:20:47 PM
Hey Greg, just got on the internet for the first time today.  WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?  I've never heard of something like this.  Like someone else said, I'm getting more and more  :mad:  with each update I read.  F'ed UP!  I'll be interested to hear all this turns out.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 05, 2004, 06:57:29 PM
MY BABY HAS BEEN RETURNED TO ME!! :D Ok so we go down thier and the cop, my lawyer and I walk thru the door of this repo office and ask the lady at the desk to speak to the mannager, she was really nice and said that he would be back in about 10 min. So we sat down to wait on him. He shows up about 20 min after that and I go up to talk to him and I introduce my self tell him that im the one that he talked to on the phone earlyer and ask him niceley to return what is mine. He says that he wont do it.  (with the cop and my lawyer sanding behind me, dumb bastard) so the officer steps in front of me and says that if I want to press charges that the manager and the driver will be aressted for agravated auto theft or something along those lines. Now all of the sudden this guy is all about helping me.  He orders one of the guys standing around to go get my car off the truck and be REALLY carefull.
Im still pissed off, so I tell the cop that I want to press charges agenst them.  The manager of the repo office looked at me like he was going to swing on me or something he looked pissed.

The guy that he sent outside bursts thru the door and says the car is off the truck. I immediately turn around and walk out the door the car looks fine from the outside and the doors were unlocked.(I locked them the last time I saw the car in the garage). The manager and the rest of the crowd of ppl followed me outside, so I asked him how he got into the car he said that VW made him a key, and he drove it out of the garage and than winched it onto the flat bed.
He says that we should go inside and sign some documents, we go inside and he has a document typed up and he hands it to me with a pen and I hand it to my lawyer. He looks at the paper and looks at me and says no way. My lawyer says we will be takeing the car and not signing any thing, the manager says if you dont sign you cant take the car.
I said WTF your not even suposto have the car in the first place, I show him the title and the cop says that I dont have to sign any thing. We took the car and they were arrested.
We (my lawyer and I) are expecting that they will settle the lawsuit out of court, VW will be inspecting the car tormarow morning first thing.

Dont get me wrong im not a person who enjoys other people's suffering. If they would have said they were sorry for the whole thing when I talked to the manager on the phone and returned what was mine in a timely manner I wouldent have had any one arrested but they got what was comeing to them as far as im concerned.
And after all this no one at the repo office said that they were sorry about the whole thing, maby im nieve(sp) but that pisses me off.

At least my baby is home safe and sound.
   :)
P.S. sorry for the HUGE post.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Eric18T on April 05, 2004, 07:04:37 PM
WOW.. It is just crazy that it had to go to this point. but atlast  you got eh car back. Hopefully it checks out ok from VW.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 92UrS4 on April 05, 2004, 07:05:31 PM
Wow Greg! I'm glad the resolution has been good, so far.  I'm glad they got arrested, and I'm glad you're going to VW to have the car looked at.

Which brings up another point, always keep your VIN covered! It's illegal in theory, but with the ease of getting a key and the relatively low cost in relation to the value of the car it is very important to do so.

Good luck with the rest of this Greg and I hope your baby is tip top and you don't need to seek any repair damages from them.  I certainly hope they take care of you, you wont be righ, but you need to be compensated for yout time, trouble and lawyer fees. Maybe a restraining order as well since I would be worried about retaliation since they know where you live and what you drive.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 05, 2004, 07:18:30 PM
Also big thanks for all the great advice, although some Kraut-sled  red-neck justice is alot more fun and gratifying at the time im glad I handled it the way I did.

Thanks again Jon, Jay and every one else for the great advice. :D

~Greg
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: SweetVW on April 05, 2004, 08:10:34 PM
Man-o-man! 8O   I am glad you got your car back.  It amazes me actually how easy it is to get a key.  I saw the report on TV last year about this happening, but I never thought it would happen to someone I know.  If at all possible please find out who made the key.  You might go after them for making the key without your authorization.  If not, at least warn the manager that this happened and that they need to update/change their policies.

P.S.  Who is your lawyer, he sounds pretty cool.  Seriously!
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 05, 2004, 08:31:05 PM
That was part of the problem my local VW dealership made the key for the repo company. So thier is nothing that I can do about that really.  And it turns out that the first time they took the car it wasent illegal, when I produced the title and the guy took off that's when they broke the law.

My lawyer is Steven Banks, he is awsome, he has been a freind of my dad's since he was in collage.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: kraut-sled on April 05, 2004, 08:54:23 PM
Glad to see you have you car back, but I am still fired up.  I am down for some seroious whooping, but it sounds like that is not in the cards.

I am on my way out to the car to cover the vin number right now.  I am going to use some black finger nail polish, that way if I do get pulled over I can remove it with a razor blade if the cop askes to see it.

Man this kind of shite pisses me off.  I work in an environment where I have to make some collection calls and to be honest I have no love loss for people that can not pay their bills, but when someone is screwed like this I feel even worse.  There is NO excuse.  Do not forget to get the name of the bank or who ever that call for the REPO.

I hope the car turns out to be fine, if it is not, that would just add insult to injury.

I am not one for BS lawsuits, however in this case, you are right to go for the throat.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: SweetVW on April 05, 2004, 09:03:38 PM
The one thing I do remember from the TV show (Dateline I think) is that you can cover your VIN with black tape or the sort just, as long as you can remove it if needed.  I definitely think that will be in my future.  You would think that they would create some sort of bio-fingerprint authentication that would reside on the fob and you could not start the car without a correct fingerprint.  They have it for the high end HP iPac's, why not?
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 05, 2004, 09:08:31 PM
Quote from: "StarlightB5"
 You would think that they would create some sort of bio-fingerprint authentication that would reside on the fob and you could not start the car without a correct fingerprint.  

I saw a new Lexus comercial that has just what your talking about in the door handle. Thats some James Bond S#!t.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: kraut-sled on April 05, 2004, 09:50:31 PM
Quote from: "blueGOLFturbo"
I saw a new Lexus comercial that has just what your talking about in the door handle. Thats some James Bond S#!t.


So who is going to be the first one with this mod??

Right now I have just completed the (middle) finger nail polish mod.

BTW - has anyone seen "The Boondock Saints"?  This incedent has reminded me of the movie - Getting back at the "bad guys".
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Eric18T on April 05, 2004, 10:03:53 PM
Quote from: "StarlightB5"
The one thing I do remember from the TV show (Dateline I think) is that you can cover your VIN with black tape or the sort just, as long as you can remove it if needed.  I definitely think that will be in my future.  You would think that they would create some sort of bio-fingerprint authentication that would reside on the fob and you could not start the car without a correct fingerprint.  They have it for the high end HP iPac's, why not?


I am going to put electrical tape over our VIN number tommarow night after reading this...
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: DenverPat on April 05, 2004, 10:17:09 PM
Like you said, Greg, if they would have admitted wrongdoing and apologized they can go on their merry way.  But if they continually deny you what is rightfully yours, then try to get you to sign something (presumably) waiving rights to press charges, F 'em....and F'em GOOD.  Pricks.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 03Indigo on April 05, 2004, 10:34:42 PM
Quote from: "Denver Pat"
\ F 'em....and F'em GOOD.  Pricks.


WERD!!!!! I just got back home from an evening with the family for Pasah...and I am glad to see your car is back, but press full charges, milk them for money, make them PAY for what they have done.   They had no right and need to be put in their place.  It makes me very mad.  I am glad you had a resource for legal suppport, you were fortunate, and the officer sounds like he was a big help as well, Kudos to him.

Maybe you can get enough money for a down payment on a house or something like that...or some major mod money...after what they did, you deserve it, and they handled themselves poorly.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 05, 2004, 10:54:50 PM
I figured out how they got in the garage, the people that manage the apartment complex let them in!! I ask has every one lost all common sense? Thats just stupid. The Golf was taken at 11:45 pm or so that means the management eather gave them a key to the garage or came down and let them in at that time of night, im going down to the office tomarow when I get back from the VW dealer ship to figure out the whole story.

I hope this isant a never ending story....
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: MattyB on April 06, 2004, 08:16:19 AM
OMG!  This is a shocker!  I'm glad to read that you are getting it resolved, thanks to a suprisingly helpful police officer.  What was the repo guys' story?  Mistaken Vin?  Erroneous request from a bank?  I'm curious.  

/Matt
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: kraut-sled on April 06, 2004, 08:30:23 AM
Due to the unbelievable nature of this story, I have posted a link on ClubB5.com

I want all our brethren to be aware.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 06, 2004, 10:17:57 AM
Well today has started out alot better than yesterday did.
I went down to my VW dealership and they checked out the car and found everything to be fine, I stood their while they went over the whole car inside and out, top to bottom.  After they checked out the car I asked to speak to the manager of the dealer ship, I wanted to introduce my self after the car was inspected on the off chance that the repo company had freinds that worked their. I wanted to make sure that my inspection was accurate.
I explaned to the manager what had happend and he allready knew what was going on. He apolagized for every thing that I had been through even though he wasent really responsable for any thing that went on. That was formal apology number one for the day.
About 10 min later my cell phone rings, my lawyer on the other end says to plan on answering the phone for most of the morning. "Alot of people screwed up" he said and they should be calling today to try and make amends. So I said fine. Drove the car pretty hard on the way home and every thing feels fine to me as far as suspension, stearing so on.

Next stop was the management office for my apartment complex. I went into the managers office and it was suprizeingly easy to get the whole story out of them. They apoligized right off the top, for leting the repo company into the garage.  It turns out that the repo company called the emergency service number for the complex and one of the matince guys was sent down to answer the call. He assumed that I had requested the tow truck because of car trouble. WTF I said it was like 11:30 or 11:45 at night where are they going to tow it to I asked? So I ended up fileing a formal complant with Simpson Property Group the actuall owneres.

The bank called and apoiligized for everything that has happend and they were hopeing that I wasent going to bring lawsuit to them too, I informed them that I wasent and they said that they are sending papers to my lawer for a bond that they are giveing me for my troubles, we will see what that tuns out to be, and the bank guy said that my formal apology was mailed today.
Im at peace with the bank as far as im concened, the apartement compex, and the dealer ship as well. The only people still on my shit list are the repo people. (lawyer) says that he has a meeting with thier lawer tonite last thing of the day to try and work this all out, they just want it to go away aparently, as do I.

Sorry for another HUGE post

~Greg
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 92UrS4 on April 06, 2004, 10:27:17 AM
Again, WOW, this has been the craziest thing I have ever heard. I am glad it is working out so far and most important, your car got a good checkup.

I am glad the bank is sending you a "bond" for whatever, hopefully it is a fair amount. I also hope everything is resolved with the repo company in a good manner, as long as you have no financial responsibility at all in this matter then I would say that is an adequate solution.  If it looks like you will be out even a $1 I would be pissed.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: velo on April 06, 2004, 10:30:38 AM
Very glad to hear you got your car back!  Glad to hear they got a key cut.  That is better than having them drag the car around or popping a lock.  Did you make them give you that key they had cut?

Kudos to having the repo guys brought up on charges.  I'm still amazed that the dealer cut them a key though.  Can anyone do that or do repo men have some special license that allows them to get keys from the dealer?  I wonder if covering the VIN would have helped in this case though?  Maybe the bank had the VIN on file already?

Maybe your settlement will cover a down payment on an R32!  :)
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 92UrS4 on April 06, 2004, 10:36:44 AM
In this case it sounds like the bank had the VIN, however, if I drove to velo's house, grabbed the VIN and called and said I needed a key from VW, I could probably get it.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 06, 2004, 10:42:05 AM
Your right Jay that's why the bank is sending me that bond or what ever, because they basicly handed the repo ppl keys to my car. I did get the vallet key that was made, and I made sure that it was the only one. The dealer ship said they only made one.

What I still want to know is where did the bank get my VIN from when I got the car a month ago I wrote a check for it. The bank should have never had my name or the VIN they have no claim to the car.

Im just hopeing this is settled soon
 :)
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Rusty on April 06, 2004, 11:54:16 AM
Wow.  Thanks for sharing this with us.  Glad everything is working out OK.  Can't wait to see what finally happens with the repo people.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 03Indigo on April 06, 2004, 12:13:12 PM
yeah, what they are sending you is because they know they are royally screwed for sure, a small bond won't make up for a mistake like that.  Good of you to let them off the hook, I seriously doubt I would be as kind.  As for the repo people, they should be taught a lesson for their lack of professionalism to you, and the trouble and bad attitude they gave through the entire process.  Business can't operate like that, and when they do, they should be handled and taught a lesson.

I am just glad your car is back and that you have no problems with your car what so ever.  That is good news.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: ColoradoB5 on April 06, 2004, 01:57:22 PM
OMG Greg, this is the craziest story I ever heard!

Thank god the police officer and lawyer were there.  Nothing feels better than following all of the rules and really shafting someone for screwing you over, which these guys obviously were doing.
Title: repo man
Post by: Lila on April 06, 2004, 02:22:17 PM
I believe you need to be licensed by the Colorado Department of Regulatory Agencies (DORA) to be a repo man.  Be sure to register a complaint with them.  Also, I'd register a separate complaint with the Better Business Bureau.  Your lawyer can help you with this, or if you like, I can too.

-Mike Powers
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: UberGrrl on April 06, 2004, 03:07:51 PM
Damn.. just read this whole thing today. I'm so sorry about your car! But glad you got it back.. hopfully you'll get something for your troubles...sheeit. I still can't believe it. I still don't get why the bank thought it needed to be repo'd.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 06, 2004, 03:25:46 PM
I went and met with the lawyer for the repo company to see what he had to say about the whole thing. They gave me 2 written apology's one from the owner for the way he treated me on the phone and in person and the other from the driver.
Im happy to say that we were able to reach an agreement to settle the lawsuit out of court.  Their is still a ton of paperwork that needs to be done but an agreement has been reached, were hopeing to get everything finished by sometime next week.
They will still have to deal with the criminal charges that are pending agenst them, im not willing to let that go. Hopefully they will learn their lesson the frst time, and will never treat anyone the way that I was treated. Meny people made mistakes in this whole thing the bank, apartment complex and most of all the repo people. I could bring suit agenst all of them but I dont enjoy other peoples suffering, I just wanted what was mine and I got it.

This is bold because this is the most important part. THANK YOU! again to every one on rmcb5.com who gave great advice and helped me through the very crappy sequince of events in the last couple days.
In the last 48 hours this thread has seen 40+ posts and over 2000 page views, that is just awsome guys, I feel like im part of one big family. I dont think I would have ever found support like this from just any group of people.

Thanks again everyone!

~Greg
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 92UrS4 on April 06, 2004, 03:31:42 PM
You're welcome Greg! We wouldn't let any of our own have to sufferthrough something like this without offering some constructive advice.  I'm glad the settlement is satisfactory and hope the paperwork doesn't take too long.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: kraut-sled on April 06, 2004, 03:36:04 PM
Greg - Glad to see that things are being taken care of and the situation is comming to a close.

Any time you need something - this group is going to be there.  I too feel like this community has made my life better - not just my car.

 :thumbsup: RMCB5
Title: Greets from WRXfanatics
Post by: Turb0flat4 on April 06, 2004, 06:05:18 PM
Hey there, this thread got linked to over at WRXfanatics.com, a site dedicated to WRXs. This is such a horrenduous story it's probably going to be making the rounds at quite a few car and bike sites very soon.

Really happy to hear that things worked out for you, dude, with no damage to your baby. But it maddens  :evil: me that this sort of dumb mistake can easily happen, and the first response of those bloodsuckers when you show them the title is to brazenly tell you it's a forgery.

I think you should raise all heck with the bank and find out how this sort of mixup happened. If you have money there, take it all out and flip them the bird on your way out.  8)

Ciao.  :-D
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 92UrS4 on April 06, 2004, 07:18:33 PM
Greg, I was just updating my GF on the situation and she brought up a good point.  Make sure there is nothing on your Credit about this.  Chances are if the Bank felt they needed to take a car back tehy had no claim to, they may have marred your credit report.

I would get back in touch with them and maybe get a copy of your credit report to ensure it is clean.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: SweetVW on April 06, 2004, 08:36:58 PM
This is super!!!  :D  :D  :D

Greg, Unfortunately you are one of many newer club members that I have not had a chance to meet.  It is a wonderful feeling to know that you are accepted regardless of who you are.  You and anyone who joins is part of a wonderful family.  Though I am not one of the more visibly seen people I share in the joys and the pains via this web site.  I look forward to meeting you and the other new folks.

P.S.  It is great that this is starting to circulate around the other enthusiast sites.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 06, 2004, 08:38:12 PM
The credit issue has allready been addressed. It cant affect my credit because I never owed money on it. It looks like a simple paperwork mixup at the bank.  My lawer pulled my credit and every thing is as it was before.

I was never really mad at the bank, everyone makes mistakes. Sometimes we make big mistakes, I can forgive mistakes even big one's. As far as im concerned this issue is done, I have recouped my expences for the inspection of my car, and my lawer fee's. Hell all I really wanted was my car back. If they would have given it back I would have had no problems. Bottom line is mistakes happen.
I dont blame people for their mistakes, I just ask that they pay for them. Im just glad my name is out of the issue, im square with everyone involved.

I am kinda suprised that this thread has made it to wrx sites allready, thats why our visitor count has been up in the hundreds all day.

Im just glad this is comeing to a close and I can put it behind me. It still makes my blood presure rise just thinking about it.

~Greg
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: RobD on April 06, 2004, 09:02:14 PM
Greg, I just read through this whole post.  I'm speechless.  I had to check the date on the thread to see if maybe this was April 1st.  

You have been wronged and the responsible parties involved should be held accountable.  Like Amanda posted above, I'm still not sure why the bank set all this motion.  I think you better review that bond and make sure it's appropriate for the gief you had to go through.  They are getting off lightly since they are the ones that started it all.

Good job with the attorney and the cop.  Considering your ripe age of 19 I sure think you acted like some that had many more years under their belt.  Way to hold it together!

Jay - Renee's point on the credit is a great one and should be checked thoroughly.

Keep us posted.

Rob
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Drewish on April 06, 2004, 09:50:20 PM
Hey man, sorry to butt in, but sweet story, At first I was expecting you to say "april fools", But that is just sick what they have done! I would have lost it to find my car gone, I full support you 100% and thought you made all the right choice's.
What they did was by far "grand Theft Auto" and think Charges should NEVER be dropped.


Great job! now next time they will think twice about makeing mistakes
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: s15dude on April 07, 2004, 12:06:23 AM
I couldnt believe this post as I read it, by the way, my name is rory and I usually room nissan boards (www.zilvia.net) where i saw a link to this thread, I'm glad everything worked out for you and hope this happens to no one else!! I'm glad your car is ok too, i would be super pissed if this happend to me because i own my car free and clear as well, on the note of screw ups, my buddy and i were lookin for apartments, one of them gave us the print out they got of our credit reports, along with credit reports of 2 other people!!! can you believe that? we returned them and told them they are F*&$ing idiots and didnt rent a place there. just goes to show how stupid some people can be and how it can mess up lifes of innocent and hard working people..
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: nokeone on April 07, 2004, 12:08:59 AM
great story...well told...very entertaining to read...also very upsetting...glad it all worked out well for you...:)..

made it to Zilvia: http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=50389 as stated by the above poster...
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colin on April 07, 2004, 12:09:18 AM
I got this thread from my website, www.GMPerformance.org

Glad you got your car back.

Take care,
Colin
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 03Indigo on April 07, 2004, 02:16:47 AM
Well Greg, looks like you made it big time...and that you have plenty of support not only from us, but from other enthusiasts as well...afterall, that is what we are about on RMCB5, enthusiasts and community.

Thanks to every one of the visitors from other sites that have offered support to Greg, I think it is wonderful how the community can come together in a situation like this.

best regards from the site administration and moderators to all our visitors...and to Greg for handling this is a calm and well though out way.

cheers
jon
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: hotgemini on April 07, 2004, 03:02:19 AM
Just another well-wisher, link seen on www.performanceforums.com
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 03Indigo on April 07, 2004, 03:32:15 AM
Quote from: "blueGOLFturbo"

 THANK YOU! again to every one on rmcb5.com who gave great advice and helped me through the very crappy sequince of events in the last couple days. I dont think I would have ever found support like this from just any group of people.

Thanks again everyone!

~Greg


Glad we could offer help, even in our small ways.  What goes around comes around, you have already offered many members of this board assistance in many areas, help with garage days, cell phones, advice, and friendship.  I think I can speak for every one of the many members that have met you in saying that we are glad this situation resolved as quickly as it did, and without damage to your car.  Make sure to keep us up to date, and also make sure you records are clean as Jay and Renee suggested, and that the repo company takes responsibility for their actions.  Responsibility in part of the apartment complex and your bank should also be accounted for, even though you feel like their mistakes are understandable, I doubt they would be as forgiving if you had made a similar mistake, they would hold you to every letter of the law or contract as it may be....and I feel they should be held to those same standards.

Lila has good points, they should be reported to the Regulatory Agencies and the BBB.  If you lawyer does not do this, I am sure Lila will be more than happy to lend you a hand or at least offer guidance on how to go about it.

At least you will be able to make Garage Day at my place next Wednesday, I am counting on your help with Van's suspension.

cheers
jon
Title: I have a question...
Post by: adam1991 on April 07, 2004, 05:48:30 AM
This is a great story.  If you had video of the scene in the repo man's shop where the cop stepped up to arrest them, I'd have paid good cash for that.

Anyway, maybe I missed something here.  If so, I apologize.  But I have one question: if you paid cash for the car, how did ANY bank have both the VIN *and* the matching address for the car?

I can see them giving the repo man a wrong VIN; typos happen. But they would also have given the repo man an address for the car. The repo man would have gone there and not found the VIN in question.

So how did a random bank that was NOT involved in the sale have both the VIN *and* the matching address?
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 98_SNAKE_EATER on April 07, 2004, 06:30:56 AM
That's INSANE!!

Glad to hear you got your car back though 8-)




Rick
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Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: PsYcHeKaOs on April 07, 2004, 06:36:12 AM
I got this link from LS2.com.

I just want to say that you really have a lot of patience.  I would have flown off the handle & wanted them arrested right away!!  I would also have milked the for all that had for making me so mad!  I felt anger inside me when I was reading this!

I also have a story about idiot repo men.  I had my car repo'd. (Yes, I know this was my fault.)  It was a totally stupid thing on my part because ironically, I had the money to pay the bill, I just completely forgot.  I had every intention on paying it that day, when my car was missing, & my bank isn't very lenient.  1st, the bank said I owed them more money than I did.  They said one a check for $700 had bounced.  The kicker was, I had never paid them w/ a check.  Then it suddenly seemed like that was credited to me.  (They never admitted it to being paid by me.)  My car was broken down @ the time, as I was replacing my alternator.  I had to make an apointment @ 11:30 am to pick up my car @ the repo lot that was conveniently place 95 miles away!  I had to take a day off of work, & I called a tow company to come get it once it was paid.  The lot attendant was cool, but the owner was not.  He said I couldn't take my car because the plates were expired.  WRONG.  The lot attendant told me that the owner was pissed I hung up on him on the phone (because he wouldn't tell me who he was.)  So the tow truck came but went to the main lot.  I'm waiting 2 hours wondering where the tow truck company is & so I call them to find out.  They said they went & talked to the owner & he said I never paid the bill!  "But I have my receipt in my hand!" I said.  "I've had it for 3.5 hours!!"  I asked them to come back & they said no way.  They charged me $86.  I had to wait another 2 hours for another tow truck company to tow my car.  More money.  

I hate repo guys!
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Victheslic on April 07, 2004, 07:16:07 AM
The bank and repo services can probably get your vehicle information and address from your local dmv/dot.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Constrictor on April 07, 2004, 07:16:22 AM
I got this link from http://www.ls2.com a performance site for GM LS1/LS2/LS6 powered cars like the Camaro, Corvette, Firebird, GTO, etc...

Anyway, just wanted to throw up some support for a crazy ordeal.  Sometimes crazy stuff like this happens and you need to step back and ask yourself if you're dreaming.

It seems as though stupidity can have a snowball affect where once it gets going, its amazing how dumb people can be.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know that we all feel for ya.  It doesnt matter what type of car you have, if you love it, its painful when crap like this happens.

--------------------------------

1998 Pontiac Trans Am
405.5 RWHP  385.1 RWTQ

http://www.constrictorls1.com
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: bradttu on April 07, 2004, 07:59:06 AM
Got this link from http://www.anythingcars.com. Looks like the repo man got OWNED! Glad it all worked out for you.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 91_Jeep_Project on April 07, 2004, 08:28:30 AM
got this link from www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums

Amazing story, I live in CO, sounds like the officer was a great help.  Doesn't suprise me though, alot of the cops out here like to make your day go from crap to shit.  Glad ya got it back okay
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: ct_18t on April 07, 2004, 09:02:11 AM
chimin in from www.club18t.com and the www.sportcompactracing.com network.  just read the entire thread and i can say i'm goin to class today with a big smile on my face  :D .  You handled the situation very well and i'm glad everything is ok with your car.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: NINaudio on April 07, 2004, 09:16:42 AM
Linking from http://board.accordtuner.com.  Man that was some crazy stuff happening.  I know I would have flipped out on them all if that happened to me.  You've got good self-restraint and a good head on your shoulders man.  I'm glad to hear that it all worked out for you!  I'm putting electrical tape on my VIN today if it's not already covered by my speaker grill!!!!


George
http://board.accordtuner.com
http://www.6thgenaccord.com
My Cardomain Page (http://www.cardomain.com/id/ninaudio)
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 07, 2004, 09:49:19 AM
:lol: Thanks for everyone takeing the time to stop by and show your support, thier is nothing really to report. But it is funny to watch how this story is getting around, If you hail from another site and feel like posting here please leave a link to the site where you found the thread, mostly for my own personal amusement.

THANKS EVERYONE!!!

 :lol: This is almost geting out of hand. :lol:
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: zim on April 07, 2004, 10:10:17 AM
just read your story... www.mustang-forums.com feels for ya bro.  Glad everything turned out ok  :)
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Dale on April 07, 2004, 10:10:56 AM
clubgp.com support here!

Good way to handle things, and glad to see an officer support someone.  Can I make a suggestion to write the police department, and give a kind word on the officer who helped you, but not the one on the phone  :lol:

And the next time your apartment lease is up, I would move.  Thats just plain crazy.  I belive the law where I live is that the repo company must first attempt to make contact with you before they actually take the car.  Stupid in a way, but would resolve errors like this.

Good job on making the right moves!
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: zim on April 07, 2004, 10:22:51 AM
talk about gettin this board some traffic...

 People Online:
 Members: 11    
 Visitors: 438

 :lol:
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: glxpassat on April 07, 2004, 10:27:58 AM
Thought I would say MAN OH MAN, TALK ABOUT A STORY!!!  Glad to hear things have been resolved.  I was reading this from a link off of www.clubb5.com and in shock of everything that had accured.   8O
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 92UrS4 on April 07, 2004, 10:30:21 AM
Hey becca! Welcome to our little club :) Glad you could stop by and voice your support. ;)
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: lllanora on April 07, 2004, 10:34:42 AM
Linked from mymonte.com

dude thats really fckd up, Im glad everything got worked out and I hope there lining your pockets nicley.

Tim
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Molly on April 07, 2004, 10:39:11 AM
Hi from WichitaRacing.com!!

I feel your pain. My parents "bought" me a car when I graduated high school ('01 Trans Am WS6). Well after a few months they decided to make me pay for the payments (so much for the "gift"). Then all of a sudden my mother didn't trust me to make the payment (I wasn't anywhere on the loan) so I had to give the money to her. See where this is heading? She didn't make the payment, she used to money for her own enjoyment and the car got repoed out from under me. My fiancee (now husband) and I went to the bank to buy the car and they wouldn't let us do it because my mother was the one it had been repoed from. However, they didn't have a leg to stand on since I hadn't been anywhere on the loan or had anything to do with it. They finally said ok but you'll have to do this and this and this. That included a $4,000 down payment. My fiancee without blinking threw his credit card on the desk and said "Let's do it". The look on the bank owner's face was so funny!!!
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 03Indigo on April 07, 2004, 10:39:32 AM
Quote from: "glxpassat"
Thought I would say MAN OH MAN, TALK ABOUT A STORY!!!  Glad to hear things have been resolved.  I was reading this from a link off of www.clubb5.com and in shock of everything that had accured.   8O


Welcome Becca.  I have not been over at CB5 in a very, very long time, glad to see you are still around, and that you stopped by our little side of the world.

cheers
jon
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 97luminals on April 07, 2004, 10:43:56 AM
hey i got the link to this site from www.MyMonte.com   a Monte Carlo/Lumina club.   Juss gotta say that sux wut u went through if i was in ur place i woulda really beat the shizz outta of them.  just still strange why they picked u outta all the ppl since u dunt even owe any1 anything for the car.....  its good to hear everything went good
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 07, 2004, 10:45:31 AM
Thanks for stopping by Becca hope to see you around the site!

~Greg
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: SweetVW on April 07, 2004, 10:49:13 AM
I definitely agree with Dale.  Write that officer a big thanks, he stuck in there with you through this.  Also I think we need to hook up with your lawyer and take him out.  Have you kept him and your dad up to date on the explosion of this thread?

I also have to say one last thing: Kudos for keeping company and individual names out of this.  Anger can quickly lead to irrational thinking and ultimately regret.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 07, 2004, 11:07:23 AM
My parents are on holaday so I havent been able to tell them what has been going on because they havent called since they left like 2 weeks ago.
As for my lawer he is not one for going out at all, so he sugusted that I cook dinner for him and his family.(witch is no problem for me because he has 2 cute daughters and I was a culinary arts major for 2 years, I know my way around the kitchen)

When I called my lawyer the first time he said right off the bat that if I talked to anyone about this to not include any names what so ever, especially online. For fear of being sued for slander or something along those lines. witch is exelent advice.

The record for the farthest away site is somewhere in europe, im just waiting to get an email in russian. :lol:  :lol:

~Greg
Title: First inconsistency in claim.
Post by: TMR on April 07, 2004, 11:12:05 AM
That's funny, [removed for legal reasons] does not show up on a search on the Colorado Bar Association. As far as lawyers go, the only [removed for legal reasons] I know is fictional, he's the Fresh Prince's uncle.

http://www.cobar.org/directory/index.cfm

You got some 'splaining to do.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Colorado_Baja on April 07, 2004, 11:15:56 AM
ha ha thats a good question ill ask him the next time I talk to him.
Title: Re: First inconsistency in claim.
Post by: scrapinby on April 07, 2004, 11:46:31 AM
Quote from: "TMR"
That's funny, [removed for legal reasons] does not show up on a search on the Colorado Bar Association. As far as lawyers go, the only [removed for legal reasons] I know is fictional, he's the Fresh Prince's uncle.

http://www.cobar.org/directory/index.cfm

You got some 'splaining to do.


Don't forget about the comedian from the '80s.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Bimmernut on April 07, 2004, 11:47:52 AM
Good Job!  from the gang at Bimmerevolution.com
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: philoldsmobile on April 07, 2004, 11:49:26 AM
just saw this on www.nethirdgen.org

Unbelievable, its also up on www.aacint.com  (U.K. American car forum and club)

(by me!)  :D
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: MrNicholas on April 07, 2004, 11:53:55 AM
I just wanted to chime in and say "Hello" from my350z.com, where your tale was linked.

I'm glad everything worked out! You showed infinately more patience than I would have in a similiar situation.

Good job!
Title: Re: First inconsistency in claim.
Post by: madigan on April 07, 2004, 11:56:08 AM
Quote from: "TMR"
That's funny, [removed for legal reasons] does not show up on a search on the Colorado Bar Association. As far as lawyers go, the only [removed for legal reasons] I know is fictional, he's the Fresh Prince's uncle.

http://www.cobar.org/directory/index.cfm

You got some 'splaining to do.


That is funny. Actually, one of the Engineers I work with is named [removed for legal reasons]. I don't think he practices law on the side though... :lol:
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Scuba2001 on April 07, 2004, 12:04:48 PM
Well, Im another B5'er from www.clubb5.com and wanted to say congrats to you for keeping your cool.

Im going to be surfin around this board every now and then, like the format.  Ill pop in and see what progress you have.  so keep us posted and glad to see that you were able to settle outside of court.  That stuff just takes alot more time to handle when its not really even needed to take things like this and draw them out.

Congrats, and glad that all is well.

Steve
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: NadineHauklund on April 07, 2004, 12:05:20 PM
I got this link from asheronslore.com, a gaming site about the game Asheron's Call, who told me to visit audiworld.com who told me to visit here, hahah.

Glad I did.  Excellent story, glad it all came out in the wash.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: rEvVoMaNiAc on April 07, 2004, 12:10:39 PM
Reporting from www.altimas.net here!
Glad everything turned out well... good thinking on your feet when you called the lawyer!  8)
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: lillitnn92 on April 07, 2004, 12:13:24 PM
i got this from http://www.vacustoms.com

don't know how you did it, but glad you kept your calm(to a point). i have some bloodpressure problem and this would not have gone over well with me. can't imagine it.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: HatchPwrd on April 07, 2004, 01:45:05 PM
Followed this link in from www.norcalvw.com .  Going to crosspost to http://www.sfbavw.com .  

Glad to hear that you are taking action against those guys, and very happy to hear you got your car back.  This is definitely a scary one.   8O
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: ARTSUPRA on April 07, 2004, 01:58:21 PM
Found this thread on www.supraforums.com

I can't belive something like that would of happaned, crazy
Specially when so many differet people got ivolved.

Art

(http://www.supraforums.com/forum/images/forumlogo.gif)
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Infinity on April 07, 2004, 02:26:35 PM
From DSMTalk.
(http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/images/vBulletin_logo.gif)

Just here to point out that we kick VW ass all the time...j/k  :-P

Whoa, your story was pretty interesting. Yeah, I'd go after the tow truck guys. No mercy for the rude!
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: CaptainZilog on April 07, 2004, 02:30:10 PM
Hailing from Ford vs Chevy (http://fordvschevy.com/)

Glad to hear it turned out well, however, if these guys were a dishonest operation, and now they know where you live, and if they made a copy of your car key.... I think you get the idea. I would be a bit careful for a while. Great story and good luck though.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: Dark-Hawk on April 07, 2004, 02:33:34 PM
Just read this story on dsmtalk.com and will be posting it on 2 other forums as well! Crazy story man, very crazy. Glad to see that you got your car back.
Title: My worst nightmare came true....
Post by: 92UrS4 on April 07, 2004, 02:44:29 PM
On behalf of Greg and RMCB5.com I want to thank all of you that took the time to sign up and post your comments about this situation. It is always nice to see those sharing an interest in cars can come together when a fellow enthusiast runs into trouble and stand behind them even if there are differences in what we drive.

Having said that, this thread is getting locked, hopefully when everything is finalized Greg will update us with any pertinent information.

In the meantime, I have setup a special e-mail address so you can contact Greg at your convenience.  The e-mail address is:

greg@rmcb5.com

That address will forward to his personal e-mail and you can pass on your messages of support or try and get more details.

Thanks again for your interest!